Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZPT backward compatibility

2006-01-17 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-1-16 19:55 +0100:
 ...
Well, I brought this issue up on zope-dev to discuss this issue directly.
but with almost zero feedback :-) Also another related posting to zope-zpt 
got _zero_ anwers.

I have seen some answers -- though not too many...

Note also that zpt@zope.org is a very low activity list.
For it, a few answers is already a lot...


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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZPT backward compatibility

2006-01-17 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Dieter Maurer schrieb:
 Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-1-16 19:55 +0100:
...
 I have seen some answers -- though not too many...
 
 Note also that zpt@zope.org is a very low activity list.
 For it, a few answers is already a lot...

Add to it the fact the zpt@zope.org was due to be retired
anyway ;)
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZPT backward compatibility

2006-01-17 Thread Fred Drake
On 1/17/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Add to it the fact the zpt@zope.org was due to be retired
 anyway ;)

Though retirement for the list was discussed, it was decided not to
retire it since it was still the best place for implementors to
discuss matters.  The implementations in Zope 2 and Zope 3 are not the
only implementations, and the other implementors are justifiably not
interested in joining Zope-specific lists.


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[Zope-dev] Re: ZPT backward compatibility

2006-01-16 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 16. Januar 2006 13:36:32 -0500 Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




There are two separate issues here:

1. ZPT backward compatibility.

Are we introdcuting ZPT backward incompatibilities? (Aside from module
paths)?


My original implementation  would introduce incompatibilities definitely.
However I've just checked in a relaxed implementation that defaults to the 
current behaviour. Enforcing unicode is now an optinal feature which might 
be used for application that are interested to use unicode for ZPTs 
starting Zope 2.10.




If so, then I think we need to have a proposal. (Maybe you
already
made one and I wasn't paying attention.  I don't see one at:
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/FrontPage.


Well, I brought this issue up on zope-dev to discuss this issue directly.
but with almost zero feedback :-) Also another related posting to zope-zpt 
got _zero_ anwers. Also other changes happened are part of a (pending) 
proposal written by Philipp.




2. If we decide to change something, even if it's backward incompatible,
we need to change Zope itself to do things the new way before we
expect
other people to and before we introduce the deprecation warning.


Nothing else happened so far (except the issue with OFS.content_types in 
Zope 2.9. I just forgot to change the code for the 2.9 final release. There 
was something to hinder me from doing that for 2.9b2).


-aj



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