[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 8 OK, 1 Failed

2006-10-29 Thread yuppie

Hi!


Andreas Jung wrote:


--On 29. Oktober 2006 10:06:42 +0100 yuppie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


Oops! Sorry! I did not mean to cause any confusion:

- AFAICT the 2.10 branch points already to the 3.3.0 tag.


Right.

However Philipp pointed out that the Zope 2 trunk uses the Zope 3 trunk 
right now. I pointed the reasons for using the Zope 3 trunk in a former 
posting.


I guess you mean 3.3 branch HEAD, not Zope 3 trunk HEAD.

My argument for using the trunk instead of a fixed revision/tag 
is:
when we develop against the trunk or implement something on the trunk 
then we want to be sure that the code also works with the latest Zope 3 
changes.

Otherwise something might break when we update the svn:exernals to latest
Zope 3 changes at some time before an upcoming major release. So I would 
prefer that things break early than late. However as seen this approach 
has other side-effects..but I am open to let  the svn:externals point to 
tags

if you want that...


Well. I would prefer if there would be somebody who volunteers to test 
Zope 2 every now and then with the latest Zope 3 revision.


If he or she makes sure all tests pass, the svn:externals can be updated 
to that revision.


In the long run the issues have to be resolved anyway, so doing this 
step by step would not be much extra work. And we could avoid to do big 
last minute changes right before the release.



Pointing the svn:externals to the HEAD might encourage people to 
volunteer for fixing the issues, but I'm afraid a broken HEAD also 
discourages people to contribute other changes.



Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,

Yuppie

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 8 OK, 1 Failed

2006-10-29 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 29. Oktober 2006 10:06:42 +0100 yuppie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


Oops! Sorry! I did not mean to cause any confusion:

- AFAICT the 2.10 branch points already to the 3.3.0 tag.


Right.

However Philipp pointed out that the Zope 2 trunk uses the Zope 3 trunk 
right now. I pointed the reasons for using the Zope 3 trunk in a former 
posting. My argument for using the trunk instead of a fixed revision/tag is:
when we develop against the trunk or implement something on the trunk then 
we want to be sure that the code also works with the latest Zope 3 changes.

Otherwise something might break when we update the svn:exernals to latest
Zope 3 changes at some time before an upcoming major release. So I would 
prefer that things break early than late. However as seen this approach has 
other side-effects..but I am open to let  the svn:externals point to tags

if you want that...

Andreas

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 8 OK, 1 Failed

2006-10-29 Thread yuppie

Hi Andreas! Hi Philipp!


Andreas Jung wrote:


--On 28. Oktober 2006 23:50:36 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


OMG, why are we using the 3.3 branch HEAD on the 2.10 branch??? This is
how Stephan's fix got pulled into Zope 2 automatically and *automatically
broke* Zope 2. It also broke Five trunk for some reason (the formlib
stuff). Obviously, this is bad.

We should stick to specific revisions or tags when pointing to externals.
Pointing to HEAD of a branch or trunk is insane as it's an uncontrollable
risk.



As discussed with you: I will change the externals on the 2.10 branch to 
the related 3.3 tag.


Oops! Sorry! I did not mean to cause any confusion:

- AFAICT the 2.10 branch points already to the 3.3.0 tag.

- The test failure is on Zope trunk which points to the 3.3 branch HEAD.

- The collector issue I opened mentions an unsupported combination (Zope 
2.10 branch with Five trunk and Zope 3.3 branch).


I hope there will be a Zope 3.3.1 release that will be included in Zope 
2.10.1. The person who will stitch in the Zope 3.3.1 tag will see this 
failure and http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2198 might give a hint 
what the problem is.


Cheers,

Yuppie

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 8 OK, 1 Failed

2006-10-28 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 28. Oktober 2006 23:50:36 +0200 Philipp von Weitershausen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


OMG, why are we using the 3.3 branch HEAD on the 2.10 branch??? This is
how Stephan's fix got pulled into Zope 2 automatically and *automatically
broke* Zope 2. It also broke Five trunk for some reason (the formlib
stuff). Obviously, this is bad.

We should stick to specific revisions or tags when pointing to externals.
Pointing to HEAD of a branch or trunk is insane as it's an uncontrollable
risk.



As discussed with you: I will change the externals on the 2.10 branch to 
the related 3.3 tag.


Andreas

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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 8 OK, 1 Failed

2006-10-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

yuppie wrote:

Tres Seaver wrote:

Test failures
-

Subject: FAILED (errors=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.3 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Mon Oct 23 21:35:18 EDT 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-October/006371.html

First, thanks for resuming this collected report.  I would much rather
have links directly to the broken test run than to the buildbot page.

Second, I can reproduce the failure on my machine, at least after an
'svn up' this morning, but have no obvious clue why it would be broken:
 the code for local site stuff in Five hasn't changed since May.


The failure showed up after this checkin: 
http://svn.zope.org/?rev=70383&view=rev


But I didn't have time to track it down, so I opened this collector 
issue: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2198


OMG, why are we using the 3.3 branch HEAD on the 2.10 branch??? This is 
how Stephan's fix got pulled into Zope 2 automatically and 
*automatically broke* Zope 2. It also broke Five trunk for some reason 
(the formlib stuff). Obviously, this is bad.


We should stick to specific revisions or tags when pointing to 
externals. Pointing to HEAD of a branch or trunk is insane as it's an 
uncontrollable risk.


Philipp

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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 8 OK, 1 Failed

2006-10-24 Thread yuppie

Tres Seaver wrote:

Test failures
-

Subject: FAILED (errors=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.3 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Mon Oct 23 21:35:18 EDT 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-October/006371.html


First, thanks for resuming this collected report.  I would much rather
have links directly to the broken test run than to the buildbot page.

Second, I can reproduce the failure on my machine, at least after an
'svn up' this morning, but have no obvious clue why it would be broken:
 the code for local site stuff in Five hasn't changed since May.


The failure showed up after this checkin: 
http://svn.zope.org/?rev=70383&view=rev


But I didn't have time to track it down, so I opened this collector 
issue: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2198


Cheers, Yuppie

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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 8 OK, 1 Failed

2006-10-24 Thread Tres Seaver
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Zope Tests Summarizer wrote:

> Test failures
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> 
> Subject: FAILED (errors=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.3 : Linux
> From: Zope Unit Tests
> Date: Mon Oct 23 21:35:18 EDT 2006
> URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-October/006371.html

First, thanks for resuming this collected report.  I would much rather
have links directly to the broken test run than to the buildbot page.

Second, I can reproduce the failure on my machine, at least after an
'svn up' this morning, but have no obvious clue why it would be broken:
 the code for local site stuff in Five hasn't changed since May.


Tres.
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