[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-23 Thread Casey Duncan
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I rarely see spam get through list either (unless Gmane is filtering it
all out for me), so I fail to see the problem from that point of view.

-Casey

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:24:07 -0400
"Tim Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Over on the zope and zope-dev lists, there's currently agitation to
> make them members-only mailing lists.  The point is that spam could
> not get thru then (unless posted by a member).
> 
> What would zodb-dev members like?
> 
> Posting by a list member would not be affected, unless you attempted
> to send a message from an email account other than one you subscribed
> with.  In the latter case, your message would be bounced back to you.
> 
> You could worm around that by subscribing to zodb-dev with that
> address too, then going to your list membership page on the web and
> checking the box to suspend email delivery on that account.  Then you
> could post using that account too, but wouldn't also get zodb-dev
> email on that account.
> 
> I'm the list admin for zodb-dev, and don't have a preference.  If you
> do, and it's strong enough to scream it, shout.  The loudest screamer
> will win.  By default, I won't change the current policy (anyone
> can post here, member or not).


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[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Tres Seaver
Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I might be wrong but I think this is incorrect. From the headers of this
message you sent it's possible to see that you sent it thru gmane, yet
the "From:" address is your zope.com address, so you should not have a
problem posting thru the list this way.

I think you got a direct reply (but could be wrong).  I got the original 
mail bounced to me just now.

Tres.
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[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Tres Seaver wrote:
Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I might be wrong but I think this is incorrect. From the headers of this
message you sent it's possible to see that you sent it thru gmane, yet
the "From:" address is your zope.com address, so you should not have a
problem posting thru the list this way.

I think you got a direct reply (but could be wrong).  I got the original 
mail bounced to me just now.

Tres.
This surprises me.
I am administring plone-i18n mailing list. Non members cannot post. I 
always post through gmane and my messages get accepted !

Further, I think Mohsen has a very good point when he mentions the fact 
that spam pollutes the archives !

IOW, I think we really could make advantage of "Non-members not allowed" 
on zope lists.

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[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-25 Thread Casey Duncan
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:06:21 +0200
Godefroid Chapelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[..]
> I am administring plone-i18n mailing list. Non members cannot post. I 
> always post through gmane and my messages get accepted !

As long as posting from Gmane still works, then I'm fine with
restricting postings to members.

If we decide to go ahead I suggest restricting just one list first to
see if there are issues. IMO zope-dev is a reasonable candidate for a
trial list.

-Casey

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
> -1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
> lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I might be wrong but I think this is incorrect. From the headers of this
message you sent it's possible to see that you sent it thru gmane, yet
the "From:" address is your zope.com address, so you should not have a
problem posting thru the list this way.

Cheers, Leo

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida

On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
> -1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
> lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.


> 
> I rarely see spam get through list either (unless Gmane is filtering it
> all out for me), so I fail to see the problem from that point of view.
> 
> -Casey
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:24:07 -0400
> "Tim Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Over on the zope and zope-dev lists, there's currently agitation to
> > make them members-only mailing lists.  The point is that spam could
> > not get thru then (unless posted by a member).
> > 
> > What would zodb-dev members like?
> > 
> > Posting by a list member would not be affected, unless you attempted
> > to send a message from an email account other than one you subscribed
> > with.  In the latter case, your message would be bounced back to you.
> > 
> > You could worm around that by subscribing to zodb-dev with that
> > address too, then going to your list membership page on the web and
> > checking the box to suspend email delivery on that account.  Then you
> > could post using that account too, but wouldn't also get zodb-dev
> > email on that account.
> > 
> > I'm the list admin for zodb-dev, and don't have a preference.  If you
> > do, and it's strong enough to scream it, shout.  The loudest screamer
> > will win.  By default, I won't change the current policy (anyone
> > can post here, member or not).
> 
> 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Michael Bernstein
Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.
Umm... Why wouldn't this work? Isn't Gmane a subscriber?
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