Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 app server dying? (was Re: the Zope Framework project)

2009-03-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 14:15, Gary Poster  wrote:
> On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:38 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
>>
>> And I am personally interested if the Zope 3 app server is something
>> that's
>> dying in favour for other projects (Plone/Grok) or is actively used.
>
> Not clear on what you mean by the "app server".
>
> If you mean zope.publisher, no, I don't think it is dying.

I guess he means as a separate release. And I think the answer to that
also is "no". Those who currently use Zope 3 as a platform without
basing it on Grok or Repoze.bfg are likely to continue to do so for
quite some time, and they need a separate release. I don't think The
Zope 3 app server is likely to die any more than the Zope 2 app
server.

Now, in five years, maybe. But then again, by then we could all have
suffered an alien invasion. :-D

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[Zope-dev] Zope 3 app server dying? (was Re: the Zope Framework project)

2009-03-05 Thread Gary Poster

On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:38 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
>
> And I am personally interested if the Zope 3 app server is something  
> that's
> dying in favour for other projects (Plone/Grok) or is actively used.

Not clear on what you mean by the "app server".

If you mean zope.publisher, no, I don't think it is dying.

The proposals to learn from repoze's approach, and hopefully integrate  
with WebOb, mean that this is alive and kicking.

Also, to varying degrees, some medium-to-big companies are sitting on  
top of it, and these companies IME tend to have big code bases that  
tend to change decisions like this slowly.

Also, I'm pretty sure Grok also sits on top of much of the publisher  
machinery.

On the other hand, I personally have the impression that the basic  
Zope 3 ZMI is pretty much dying or dead.  Grok and Plone are the only  
ones innovating in that space (in extremely different ways, of  
course), as far as I can tell.

Gary
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