Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 ZMI sprint report
On 26 January 2012 04:29, Christopher Lozinski wrote: > Thank you for the sprint report. > > I think it is great that you are working on upgrading the ZMI. > > I am also turning my attention to this problem. Clearly ZMI needs an > upgrade. > I need an upgraded ZMI. > > Today I fired up my old version of ZAM. I can give you a password and > url if you want to see what it looks like. My understanding is that > it is a well thought out upgrade for the ZMI. Properly done with page > templates, not dtml, and pluggable. It certainly looks nice. > > Of course it has copy, cut, delete, rename, but no create. > > I also did a reinstall of the ZAM demo, but it broke. > > Am I doing the wrong thing working on ZAM? Is that consistent with the > direction others are taking on upgrading the ZMI, or should I be putting > my energy elsewhere? > > If I am doing the right thing working on ZAM, perhaps the first thing I > should do is get the install working again correctly. For that I have > to get svn access from the Zope foundation. I presume Larry Rowe is the > release manager for Zope 4, so he is the person who signs off on the > upgrades to ZAM? > > Do I understand the process correctly? Is ZAM part of Zope 4? Is it > the basis of the new ZMI, or is something else the new ZMI? I think building a better ZMI will be important in the long run though I'm not sure it should land in Zope 4 itself as I think it could be too big a step for that release. I wasn't able to get zam.demo (svn trunk) to run, so I don't have an opinion on ZAM itself at the moment. Note that Zope 4 is based on Zope 2 rather than BlueBream so I don't know how much of the existing work would still be applicable. I can volunteer some time towards guiding the Zope 4 release process, though it may be appropriate to find someone more comfortable with the existing svn/email/launchpad toolchain to be release manager if the consensus is to stay with that. Laurence ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 ZMI sprint report
Thank you for the sprint report. I think it is great that you are working on upgrading the ZMI. I am also turning my attention to this problem. Clearly ZMI needs an upgrade. I need an upgraded ZMI. Today I fired up my old version of ZAM. I can give you a password and url if you want to see what it looks like.My understanding is that it is a well thought out upgrade for the ZMI. Properly done with page templates, not dtml, and pluggable. It certainly looks nice. Of course it has copy, cut, delete, rename, but no create. I also did a reinstall of the ZAM demo, but it broke. Am I doing the wrong thing working on ZAM? Is that consistent with the direction others are taking on upgrading the ZMI, or should I be putting my energy elsewhere? If I am doing the right thing working on ZAM, perhaps the first thing I should do is get the install working again correctly. For that I have to get svn access from the Zope foundation. I presume Larry Rowe is the release manager for Zope 4, so he is the person who signs off on the upgrades to ZAM? Do I understand the process correctly? Is ZAM part of Zope 4? Is it the basis of the new ZMI, or is something else the new ZMI? -- Regards Christopher Lozinski Check out my iPhone apps TextFaster and EmailFaster http://textfaster.com Expect a paradigm shift. http://MyHDL.org ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope 4 ZMI sprint report
Hi, as you might have noticed there was a sprint and we'd like to update you on what happened. :) Sorry if we under-communicated beforehand. As part of the DZUG[1] sprint series[2] we tried looking into what a refreshed ZMI for Zope 4 could be. We started working on some code (it's really not that much) and gathered our thoughts[3] about the ZMI that might be interesting for you to read. We hope to follow up on this in the near future. However, we also discussed technical and organisational hurdles that we met and that kept us from "just doing" the ZMI and we're currently approaching the Zope Foundation board about "officially" establishing the Zope 4 project and concentrating our efforts on that. We think there will be a need (and we have some ideas for that) to establish project management, a mission statement and road map so that we can all channel our efforts together. Cheers, Christian Theune (and Charlie Clark, Veit Schiele, Yvo Schubbe, Jens Vagelpohl) [1] In case you haven't heard, we're in the process of renaming this to "Python Software Verband" - Germany's Python Software Foundation. So PySV will be showing up instead of DZUG in the future. [2] We're working on a sprint series concept that will establish sprint opportunities for Python-related projects in Germany on a quarterly basis. I personally hope to use those to work on stuff like Zope 4 in a more productive manner than with those sprint days attached to an already exhausting conference. [3] http://docs.zope.org/zmi.core/thoughts.html -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting, development, hosting, operations ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
