[Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-09 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

Zope 2 provides a command to ask it to re-open its log files thus 
supporting outside logrotation.

We have a ZTK-based app and found that the server provides neither 
signal handling to rotate logs nor a zopectl command. Does anybody 
remember wether this was ever built?

I see an old discussion on the Python list 
(http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-January/059566.html) 
but no conclusion.

If this isn't in yet, does anybody know what the right place would be? 
(I guess the packages providing the main loops and configuring the 
process would be the right ones.)

Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-10 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Christian Theune  wrote:
> We have a ZTK-based app and found that the server provides neither
> signal handling to rotate logs nor a zopectl command. Does anybody
> remember wether this was ever built?

Christian,

If you want size- or time-based rotation, that can be configured
directly using ZConfig.

There's a package called zc.signalhandler in the Zope Corporation
repository that I'll be open-sourcing.  It'll let you include
something like this in your zope.conf:


  usr2  ZConfig.components.logger.loghandler.reopenFiles


That will let you re-open ZConfig-configured log files based on a
signal.  (The "myapp" is a turdly bit caused by using the same schema
bits as  sections in the zope.conf schema.)


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Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-10 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Christian,

Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 8:47:43 AM, you wrote:

CT> Hi,

CT> Zope 2 provides a command to ask it to re-open its log files thus 
CT> supporting outside logrotation.

CT> We have a ZTK-based app and found that the server provides neither 
CT> signal handling to rotate logs nor a zopectl command. Does anybody 
CT> remember wether this was ever built?

CT> I see an old discussion on the Python list 
CT> (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-January/059566.html)
CT> but no conclusion.

CT> If this isn't in yet, does anybody know what the right place would be?
CT> (I guess the packages providing the main loops and configuring the 
CT> process would be the right ones.)

I think ZTK should have a configurable log rotation built-in.
Like:
  
path log.log
formatter zope.exceptions.log.Formatter
max-size 50MB
old-files 5
   


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Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-10 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/10/2010 02:23 PM, Fred Drake wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Christian Theune  wrote:
>> We have a ZTK-based app and found that the server provides neither
>> signal handling to rotate logs nor a zopectl command. Does anybody
>> remember wether this was ever built?
>
> Christian,
>
> If you want size- or time-based rotation, that can be configured
> directly using ZConfig.
>
> There's a package called zc.signalhandler in the Zope Corporation
> repository that I'll be open-sourcing.  It'll let you include
> something like this in your zope.conf:
>
>  
>usr2  ZConfig.components.logger.loghandler.reopenFiles
>  
>
> That will let you re-open ZConfig-configured log files based on a
> signal.  (The "myapp" is a turdly bit caused by using the same schema
> bits as  sections in the zope.conf schema.)

That's what I'm looking for - would be great if you found the time to 
release it.

Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-10 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/10/2010 03:21 PM, Adam GROSZER wrote:
> Hello Christian,
>
> Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 8:47:43 AM, you wrote:
>
> CT>  Hi,
>
> CT>  Zope 2 provides a command to ask it to re-open its log files thus
> CT>  supporting outside logrotation.
>
> CT>  We have a ZTK-based app and found that the server provides neither
> CT>  signal handling to rotate logs nor a zopectl command. Does anybody
> CT>  remember wether this was ever built?
>
> CT>  I see an old discussion on the Python list
> CT>  (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-January/059566.html)
> CT>  but no conclusion.
>
> CT>  If this isn't in yet, does anybody know what the right place would be?
> CT>  (I guess the packages providing the main loops and configuring the
> CT>  process would be the right ones.)
>
> I think ZTK should have a configurable log rotation built-in.
> Like:
>
>  path log.log
>  formatter zope.exceptions.log.Formatter
>  max-size 50MB
>  old-files 5
>

I'd like to keep this out of the server: rotation is a system 
administration task where I'd like to rely on the policies and tools 
provided by the system environment.

Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-11 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:23 AM, I said:
> There's a package called zc.signalhandler in the Zope Corporation
> repository that I'll be open-sourcing.

This is now available on svn.zope.org.  The tests pass with Python
2.4, 2.5, 2.6, and 2.7.

I've added a brief README.txt to show how it's used; there's a more
extensive doctest inside the package.


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Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-11 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/12/2010 06:22 AM, Fred Drake wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:23 AM, I said:
>> There's a package called zc.signalhandler in the Zope Corporation
>> repository that I'll be open-sourcing.
>
> This is now available on svn.zope.org.  The tests pass with Python
> 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, and 2.7.
>
> I've added a brief README.txt to show how it's used; there's a more
> extensive doctest inside the package.

Cool, thanks!


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Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
On 10/11/2010 14:23, Christian Theune wrote:
> I'd like to keep this out of the server: rotation is a system
> administration task where I'd like to rely on the policies and tools
> provided by the system environment.

I just use logrotate's copytruncate option :-)

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