Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout/buildout.org down -> disaster

2010-10-12 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 12.10.2010, 17:12 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting :

> Are you sure you used the latest distribute release? I hadn't had any
> problem at all during that whole time.

I had it here with the CMF buildout and also got it in a report from a  
customer.

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Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout/buildout.org down -> disaster

2010-10-12 Thread Andreas Jung
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Hanno Schlichting wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Andreas Jung  wrote:
>> sorry - wrong answer. This is a stupid misbehavior of setuptools
>> or zc.buildout. The zc.buildout package are hosted on PyPI and PyPI
>> was available. There is no reason for whatever component
>> to connect to buildout.org and fail without taking PyPI into account.
> 
> Are you sure you used the latest distribute release? I hadn't had any
> problem at all during that whole time.

This was a Plone 4.0.1 buildout so I guess it was 0.6.14
(can't check right now). Also numerous people complained
on IRC having the same problem (at least related to Plone 4
buildouts - not sure about problems with Plone 3 buildouts)


> It sounds like 0.6.13 should help here which includes:
>
> 
> Which was the merge of jarn.setuptoolsfixer into the distribute
> codebase. That package is obsolete for more than a year now.

Well - obviously there is likely still something wrong
(in Distribute).

But waitthis problem persisted even after releasing
zc.buildout 1.5.2 (with 'url' pointing to pypi.python.org).
So there must be something else.

Wild guess:

pypi.python.org/simple/zc.buildout

contains a file

1.5.0 home_page

file pointing to buildout.org

Perhaps there is some unhandled edgecase in Distribute?
No idea - I don#t have much insight in setuptools/Distribute.

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Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout/buildout.org down -> disaster

2010-10-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Andreas Jung  wrote:
> sorry - wrong answer. This is a stupid misbehavior of setuptools
> or zc.buildout. The zc.buildout package are hosted on PyPI and PyPI
> was available. There is no reason for whatever component
> to connect to buildout.org and fail without taking PyPI into account.

Are you sure you used the latest distribute release? I hadn't had any
problem at all during that whole time.

It sounds like 0.6.13 should help here which includes:

Issue 163: scan index links before external links

In general distribute should behave better, as we have since 0.6.7:

Issue 21: Allow PackageIndex.open_url to gracefully handle all cases
of a httplib.HTTPException instead of just InvalidURL and
BadStatusLine.

Which was the merge of jarn.setuptoolsfixer into the distribute
codebase. That package is obsolete for more than a year now.

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout/buildout.org down -> disaster

2010-10-12 Thread Andreas Jung
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Sebastien Douche wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:50, Andreas Jung  wrote:
>> Hi there,
> 
> Hi Andreas !
> 
>> Second: how to fix this finally?
> 
> I know it's not you want hear but build an "internal" infrastructure
> was a great improvement for us. Here, all is internal (debian mirror,
> zope mirror, pypi mirror, internal pypi...) and we don't care if a
> server is down. For me, the right solution is to make easier internal
> server (btw thanks the new bootstrap)
>

sorry - wrong answer. This is a stupid misbehavior of setuptools
or zc.buildout. The zc.buildout package are hosted on PyPI and PyPI
was available. There is no reason for whatever component
to connect to buildout.org and fail without taking PyPI into account.

Andreas
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Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout/buildout.org down -> disaster

2010-10-12 Thread Sebastien Douche
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:50, Andreas Jung  wrote:
> Hi there,

Hi Andreas !

> Second: how to fix this finally?

I know it's not you want hear but build an "internal" infrastructure
was a great improvement for us. Here, all is internal (debian mirror,
zope mirror, pypi mirror, internal pypi...) and we don't care if a
server is down. For me, the right solution is to make easier internal
server (btw thanks the new bootstrap)




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[Zope-dev] zc.buildout/buildout.org down -> disaster

2010-10-11 Thread Andreas Jung
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Hi there,

buildout.org is currently down and any existing buildout
is trying to phone home to buildout.org (likely because
buildout.org is configured in the package metadata as 'url').

Even releasing zc.buildout 1.5.2 with 'url' set to
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout does not work as a workaround.

First: is it setuptools or buildout ignoring the new 'url'?

Second: how to fix this finally?

There is jarn.setuptoolsfixer claiming to resolve exactly
this issue but it does not seem to have any effect (at least
not in combination with buildout).

Andreas
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