Re: [Zope-dev] un-own an object
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Tim McLaughlin wrote:
> Ok, so imagine a DTML method has an owner, and as the docs say the method
> can do no more than the authenticated user and the owner's permissions
> combined. So, now delete the owner.
No, it is the *intersection* of the two ownership sets, not the union
("combined").
> The DTML method will no longer be functional, since the owner does not
> exist, and has no permissions. I found this to be true with ZClass
Not quite. It will execute as if it were owned by nobody (the anonymous
user). So it has very minimal privileges.
> constructors at least. I believe that the method should take the
> permissions of the authenticated_user only in this scenario, but it does
> not.
Like I said (and the docs say), it is the interesection of the two
sets of privileges, so it is effectively just the permissions of
user nobody.
--RDM
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Re: [Zope-dev] un-own an object
"R. David Murray" wrote: > > Like I said (and the docs say), it is the interesection of the two > sets of privileges, so it is effectively just the permissions of > user nobody. This isn't very useful though ;-) I ended up re-creating a whole folder tree just because I wanted to delete the user who created them, and Zope 2.2.4 doesn't appear to have a 'Take Ownership' button :-( *grumbling* Chris :-) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] un-own an object
you can always do a copy and delete to take ownership... (albeit that may cause other probs...) my problem is that I need to be able to construct a zclass built by a user who no longer exists. My suspicion is that "nobody" does not have those privileges, and so it seems that I may be SOL :-( -Original Message- From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:50 AM To: R. David Murray Cc: Tim McLaughlin; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] un-own an object "R. David Murray" wrote: > > Like I said (and the docs say), it is the interesection of the two > sets of privileges, so it is effectively just the permissions of > user nobody. This isn't very useful though ;-) I ended up re-creating a whole folder tree just because I wanted to delete the user who created them, and Zope 2.2.4 doesn't appear to have a 'Take Ownership' button :-( *grumbling* Chris :-) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] un-own an object
I meant create an instance of a ZClass owned by a user who no longer exists (if my 'construct' word made no sense - haven't had coffee yet ;-) ). -Original Message- From: Tim McLaughlin Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 7:31 AM To: 'Chris Withers'; R. David Murray Cc: Tim McLaughlin; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] un-own an object you can always do a copy and delete to take ownership... (albeit that may cause other probs...) my problem is that I need to be able to construct a zclass built by a user who no longer exists. My suspicion is that "nobody" does not have those privileges, and so it seems that I may be SOL :-( -Original Message- From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:50 AM To: R. David Murray Cc: Tim McLaughlin; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] un-own an object "R. David Murray" wrote: > > Like I said (and the docs say), it is the interesection of the two > sets of privileges, so it is effectively just the permissions of > user nobody. This isn't very useful though ;-) I ended up re-creating a whole folder tree just because I wanted to delete the user who created them, and Zope 2.2.4 doesn't appear to have a 'Take Ownership' button :-( *grumbling* Chris :-) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] un-own an object
> I meant create an instance of a ZClass owned by a user who no longer exists > (if my 'construct' word made no sense - haven't had coffee yet ;-) ). Well, the other option is that you can create a user with the same name and the manager role... cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] un-own an object
Tim McLaughlin writes: > my problem is that I need to be able to construct a zclass built by a user > who no longer exists. My suspicion is that "nobody" does not have those > privileges, and so it seems that I may be SOL :-( My memory says: everything under "control_panel" (this includes ZClasses) in unowned. There is excellent documentation about Zope 2.2 security. There, you should be able to check how reliable my memory is. Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] un-own an object
Maybe you should into them more. I think that they are underappreciated in the Zope world. Very rapid dev (although slower performance). A large part of the Python dev that I am doing is geared to making ZClasses more powerful. take a look at some of my proposals. The events in particular make ZClasses much more powerful. http://www.zope.org/Members/tmclaugh We've been using the event model for ZClass dev very effectively here at BCS. I'll be posting the event code soon. Tim -Original Message- From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:37 AM To: Tim McLaughlin Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] un-own an object Ah well :-S Never been much fo a ZClass fan myself, anyway :-S good luck, Chris Tim McLaughlin wrote: > > except for in my case the user itself is an instance of a ZClass (see > ZUserFolder). so it seems an impasse. I can do a goofy cut and paste and > that will work, but it's definitely on the wacked side. > > thanks, > Tim > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:30 PM > To: Tim McLaughlin; 'R. David Murray' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] un-own an object > > > I meant create an instance of a ZClass owned by a user who no longer > exists > > (if my 'construct' word made no sense - haven't had coffee yet ;-) ). > > Well, the other option is that you can create a user with the same name and > the manager role... > > cheers, > > Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
