Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
Tino Wildenhain wrote: Not sure which objects would fall in this category. All Objects in ZODB have their history - they just dont show it by default. Comparison is of course specific to a class. Indeed, how will this work? Historycopy is of course another thing. It works for all objects but especially folders are a bit sensible if some subobjects got renamed - thats why I dont support history copy on folders. OK. So, how's this coming? ;-) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
Chris Withers schrieb: Tino Wildenhain wrote: Not sure which objects would fall in this category. All Objects in ZODB have their history - they just dont show it by default. Comparison is of course specific to a class. Indeed, how will this work? Historycopy is of course another thing. It works for all objects but especially folders are a bit sensible if some subobjects got renamed - thats why I dont support history copy on folders. OK. So, how's this coming? ;-) You can check the principle with my old monkey-patch proof of concept. Due to changes of the extensionclasses, it only works with 2.7. I've got working code for 2.8 here, but I dont want to maintain it as monkey patch anymore. http://www.zope.org/Members/tino/PatchHistory/view Regards Tino ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
Tino Wildenhain wrote: Here is the list w/ improvements ante portas: 1) Icons for add-dropdown list +1 2) History + History compare for all objects and more useable diff +10 ...but how does this work when the objects can't sensible show history or be compared? 3) warning when commiting stale edit forms in ZPT, python script (expect hight discussion here ;) -0 cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
Chris Withers schrieb: Tino Wildenhain wrote: Here is the list w/ improvements ante portas: 1) Icons for add-dropdown list +1 2) History + History compare for all objects and more useable diff +10 ...but how does this work when the objects can't sensible show history or be compared? Not sure which objects would fall in this category. All Objects in ZODB have their history - they just dont show it by default. Comparison is of course specific to a class. Historycopy is of course another thing. It works for all objects but especially folders are a bit sensible if some subobjects got renamed - thats why I dont support history copy on folders. 3) warning when commiting stale edit forms in ZPT, python script (expect hight discussion here ;) -0 Not so hight as expectted ;) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
Alexander Limi schrieb: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:56:32 -0800, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general such changes should be made on the HEAD (for next 2.10 release). OK. I was aiming for a quick sprint to get some small changes into 2.9 before release (ie. no actual code changes, just moving text and eliminating HappyTalk™ to make the interface usage clearer). I got a small UI patch to have product icons in the add-dropdown which turns out to reduce the mistakes on klicking on the wrong product to add to a minimum. Maybe you like to include it too? http://www.zope.org/Members/tino/PatchObjectManager-1.0/view It could even get some improvements - grouping factories by product could even help if the list is very long. Just some thoughts. ++Tino ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
--On 22. November 2005 09:11:13 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Limi schrieb: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:56:32 -0800, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general such changes should be made on the HEAD (for next 2.10 release). OK. I was aiming for a quick sprint to get some small changes into 2.9 before release (ie. no actual code changes, just moving text and eliminating HappyTalk™ to make the interface usage clearer). I got a small UI patch to have product icons in the add-dropdown which turns out to reduce the mistakes on klicking on the wrong product to add to a minimum. Maybe you like to include it too? http://www.zope.org/Members/tino/PatchObjectManager-1.0/view It could even get some improvements - grouping factories by product could even help if the list is very long. Since 2.9 is delayed until Zope 3.2 is ready for beta 1 you could commit it to the HEAD and 2.9 branch. -aj pgpg1oocp3SKZ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
Andreas Jung schrieb: --On 22. November 2005 09:11:13 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Limi schrieb: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:56:32 -0800, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general such changes should be made on the HEAD (for next 2.10 release). OK. I was aiming for a quick sprint to get some small changes into 2.9 before release (ie. no actual code changes, just moving text and eliminating HappyTalk™ to make the interface usage clearer). I got a small UI patch to have product icons in the add-dropdown which turns out to reduce the mistakes on klicking on the wrong product to add to a minimum. Maybe you like to include it too? http://www.zope.org/Members/tino/PatchObjectManager-1.0/view It could even get some improvements - grouping factories by product could even help if the list is very long. Since 2.9 is delayed until Zope 3.2 is ready for beta 1 you could commit it to the HEAD and 2.9 branch. Fine. Is this yet part of the discussion yes, we want that or well, if you cant hold it...? ;) Some +1 on the matters could motivate :-) Here is the list w/ improvements ante portas: 1) Icons for add-dropdown list 2) History + History compare for all objects and more useable diff 3) warning when commiting stale edit forms in ZPT, python script (expect hight discussion here ;) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: IMHO if this is just UI changes that improve usability it should be OK to flout the rules a bit. The rules are there to ensure code quality and stability in a release branch - I doubt small UI changes endanger those. Beware the slippery slope to hell, paved with good intentions ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements
On 18 Nov 2005, at 23:19, Alexander Limi wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:56:32 -0800, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] jung.com wrote: In general such changes should be made on the HEAD (for next 2.10 release). OK. I was aiming for a quick sprint to get some small changes into 2.9 before release (ie. no actual code changes, just moving text and eliminating HappyTalk™ to make the interface usage clearer). IMHO if this is just UI changes that improve usability it should be OK to flout the rules a bit. The rules are there to ensure code quality and stability in a release branch - I doubt small UI changes endanger those. jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
