SV: [Zope-dev] Re: Fishbowl?

2001-11-30 Thread Magnus Heino



 This isn't a good track record.  Brian produced 35 pages worth of
 almost-flawless docs on web services to go with his code.  But no
 comments.  And he's doing this on his own time.  So let's remember that
 this is a two-way street.

Well, that checkin was done to the cvs 4 days ago. If you haven't read the
one line at dev.zope.org about it being available in the cvs, or if you dont
subscribe to the cvs mailinglist, how are you supposed to know that it
exists? :-P

I downloaded the Webservice package a few days ago, and I agree, the docs
are really good.  But sending a mail to Brian, who probably gets too many
mails every day anyway, saying Good work!... well. I dunno.

/Magnus


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Re: SV: [Zope-dev] Re: Fishbowl?

2001-11-30 Thread Paul Everitt

Magnus Heino wrote:

  Well, that checkin was done to the cvs 4 days ago. If you haven't
  read the one line at dev.zope.org about it being available in the
  cvs, or if you dont subscribe to the cvs mailinglist, how are you
  supposed to know that it exists? :-P

Actually, he sent an email to zope-dev on 11/26.  Version control went
to zope-dev on 10/23.  Between the two, one email of discussion.

This is why I'm leery of thinking this is simply a tool issue.  I think 
we'll need more creativity, hijacking notwithstanding. :^)

--Paul


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SV: SV: [Zope-dev] Re: Fishbowl?

2001-11-30 Thread Magnus Heino


   Well, that checkin was done to the cvs 4 days ago. If you haven't
   read the one line at dev.zope.org about it being available in the
   cvs, or if you dont subscribe to the cvs mailinglist, how are you
   supposed to know that it exists? :-P

 Actually, he sent an email to zope-dev on 11/26.  Version control went
 to zope-dev on 10/23.  Between the two, one email of discussion.

Yes. You are right. I found the message. I subscribe to 11 zope
mailinglists, and I really try to read them all, but I must have missed this
one.

 This is why I'm leery of thinking this is simply a tool issue.  I think
 we'll need more creativity, hijacking notwithstanding. :^)

I don't agree.

I read the proposal when Brian wrote it, I even got a snapshot from him a
while back. Still, I missed the release.

The current tool, the Wiki at
http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/WebServicesForZope/FrontPage,
does not contain the info that he sent in the mail, and it got some links
pointing at non-existing pages. I thought I'd fix that, but it says that
Only the owners may edit this page...

But, everything is not bad, the Webservice package looks really good! :-)

/Magnus



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Re: SV: [Zope-dev] Re: Fishbowl?

2001-11-30 Thread Paul Everitt

Magnus Heino wrote:

This is just a guess, but I suspect that this is a sort of unfortunate 
cycle developing: people post proposals, get (understandably) dismayed 
at the response time and end up not spending much time there, either 
contributing or providing feedback.

 
 Well, lets move this discussion to a wiki and see how it goes...
 
 This is a tool issue.


I'd like to propose this crazy tool called email. :^)

Anybody that thinks they'd like to participate in the building of a 
better fishbowl (particularly if your name is Chris :^), trot on over to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Let's hash it out, perhaps starting with Ken's 
proposal.  Let's then make a proposal back to zope-dev and see what 
people think.

--Paul





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