Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

2008-06-19 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 15. Juni 2008 13:25:51 +0200 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2008 06:16:52 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange
for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good
tradeoff for
the current site.


The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org
in a reasonable way.


I have always been able to work with it using force-reload where
necessary, using Camino or Firefox. I know some other browsers like
Safari don't seem to be able to send a real force-reload, so I gave up on
those for zope.org editing work. I have to admit I have not done any
editing work after this move, but I have been able to log in and get to
folder content views etc with all logged-in options intact and visible.

If you are using a suitable browser that can issue real forced reloads
and you still see a problem let us know, David (or some other ZC SA) will
have to look into it then.


I am always using suitable tools :-) Using Firefox here.

I am logged in as ajung.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0
shows up with all Plohn edit options.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/
does not.

Even worser:

wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents;

returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context.
That's totally broken :-)





What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that personalized 
content (of authenticated users) is being cached and delivered to the 
outside world. I still can not do anything on zope.org :-



Andreas

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On Jun 19, 2008, at 20:53 , Andreas Jung wrote:


I am logged in as ajung.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0
shows up with all Plohn edit options.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/
does not.

Even worser:

wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents;

returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context.
That's totally broken :-)



What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that  
personalized content (of authenticated users) is being cached and  
delivered to the outside world. I still can not do anything on  
zope.org :-


I do not know what the status is since I can't touch the caching tier  
and have to rely on ZC admins to fix it. I'm CCing Dave Lawson.


Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that  
existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive and  
prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on zope.org.


Thanks!

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

2008-06-19 Thread David Lawson


On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:



On Jun 19, 2008, at 20:53 , Andreas Jung wrote:


I am logged in as ajung.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0
shows up with all Plohn edit options.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/
does not.

Even worser:

wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents;

returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context.
That's totally broken :-)



What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that  
personalized content (of authenticated users) is being cached and  
delivered to the outside world. I still can not do anything on  
zope.org :-


I do not know what the status is since I can't touch the caching  
tier and have to rely on ZC admins to fix it. I'm CCing Dave Lawson.


Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that  
existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive  
and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on  
zope.org.


Well.  I had a look and I can certainly see why you've noticed a  
difference.  zope.org, prior to the move, was essentially un-cached.   
It had a very small cache configured on the children and the parents  
were configured not to cache anything for zope.org at all.  We can  
certainly go back to that configuration if you'd like, it's a pretty  
minimal change.


--Dave
Systems Administrator
Zope Corp.
540-361-1722
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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