Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: I made an attempt to document the hardware setup. I announced this a long time ago. If you have the right privileges, you can: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/zope.org/system-documentation/trunk I don't think it's up to date, but it does reflect at least a partial reality. I wish this would be kept up to date. :/ Yay! I have system docs now. Apologies to Andrew for not knowing these existed *blush* >> Anyway, I'm going to go and beat some walls down with my head. Hope >> the changes I've made help even a little... > > Much thanks Chris! Michael, have you noticed this making any difference? Works atm, the next zope release will show ... Michael -- http://zope.org/Members/d2m http://planetzope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
Jim Fulton wrote: I made an attempt to document the hardware setup. I announced this a long time ago. If you have the right privileges, you can: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/zope.org/system-documentation/trunk I don't think it's up to date, but it does reflect at least a partial reality. I wish this would be kept up to date. :/ Yay! I have system docs now. Apologies to Andrew for not knowing these existed *blush* >> Anyway, I'm going to go and beat some walls down with my head. Hope >> the changes I've made help even a little... > > Much thanks Chris! Michael, have you noticed this making any difference? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
Chris Withers wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:02PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >| >I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using | >| >'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API. | | BTW, this doesn't mean anything to me. I guess it doesn't. It did to me. I tried to solve this properly by actually going and editing the disk based software. The results are in Products/CMFPackage/SoftwarePackage.py.chrisw.2005-10-20 on app1. It was only after several confusing refreshes on zope.org that I remembered Andrew saying he'd added another app server to Zope.org. *sigh* It'd be REAL nice if even the hardware setup of zope.org was documented SOMEWHERE so that if any of us do get pissed off enough to actually try and fix anything, we have a vague clue of where we need to go to update stuff :-( I made an attempt to document the hardware setup. I announced this a long time ago. If you have the right privileges, you can: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/zope.org/system-documentation/trunk I don't think it's up to date, but it does reflect at least a partial reality. I wish this would be kept up to date. :/ ... Admittedly, this hides a load of potential other problems, but no-one really cares, right? ;-) Nope. We are just limping along until the ZF can create a new new (or is that new new new) zope.org. :/ Anyway, I'm going to go and beat some walls down with my head. Hope the changes I've made help even a little... Much thanks Chris! Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:02PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >| >I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using | >| >'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API. | | BTW, this doesn't mean anything to me. I guess it doesn't. It did to me. I tried to solve this properly by actually going and editing the disk based software. The results are in Products/CMFPackage/SoftwarePackage.py.chrisw.2005-10-20 on app1. It was only after several confusing refreshes on zope.org that I remembered Andrew saying he'd added another app server to Zope.org. *sigh* It'd be REAL nice if even the hardware setup of zope.org was documented SOMEWHERE so that if any of us do get pissed off enough to actually try and fix anything, we have a vague clue of where we need to go to update stuff :-( | This policy causes us a world of pain, so if it's easy to fix, I'd | really like to know how. Yes, it's caused by the initial workflow state for 'Software Release File' or whatever it is called being set to 'private'. That's what was agreed on during the initial development. It's supposed to be trivial to change it for someone with minimal DCWorkflow skills. I'm surprised that if it causes so much pain that nobody has fixed it yet. Yes, well, Sidnei, as someone who should really have known how that software was setup, you could have taken the half hour needed to fix this damn problem. Anyway, upshot is that, after reading the disk-based software, laughing, and then crying, I've employed two large tal:on-error hammers to make this rediculous problem go away. custom/swpackage_view custom/swpackage_releases ..both have tal:on-error="nothing" in strategic places which should just hide releases which have problems. Admittedly, this hides a load of potential other problems, but no-one really cares, right? ;-) Anyway, I'm going to go and beat some walls down with my head. Hope the changes I've made help even a little... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:02PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >| >I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using | >| >'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API. | | BTW, this doesn't mean anything to me. I guess it doesn't. | >| >I'm sure that's an easy fix. | >| | >| Can you give us a hint of how to fix it? Is it a knob somewhere? | >| A DTML script? ;) | > | >The traceback is usually a valuable source of information. | | We don't get tracebacks. We get unauthorized responses. | | Do you, as the author of zope.org, have any idea where this behavior came | from? Is this product behavior something you implemented, or did it come | from some product product that you reused? Or is this some kind of | workflow thing? | | This policy causes us a world of pain, so if it's easy to fix, I'd | really like to know how. Yes, it's caused by the initial workflow state for 'Software Release File' or whatever it is called being set to 'private'. That's what was agreed on during the initial development. It's supposed to be trivial to change it for someone with minimal DCWorkflow skills. I'm surprised that if it causes so much pain that nobody has fixed it yet. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems, LLC. http://enfoldsystems.com ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:50:32PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | >On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:25:11PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >| - The product product has the *insane* policy that if any files aren't | >| published, the entire product is inaccessible. | >| | >| Does anyone know how to fix this? Is there a knob for this somewhere in | >| CMF? | > | >I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using | >'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API. BTW, this doesn't mean anything to me. | >I'm sure that's an easy fix. | | Can you give us a hint of how to fix it? Is it a knob somewhere? | A DTML script? ;) The traceback is usually a valuable source of information. We don't get tracebacks. We get unauthorized responses. Do you, as the author of zope.org, have any idea where this behavior came from? Is this product behavior something you implemented, or did it come from some product product that you reused? Or is this some kind of workflow thing? This policy causes us a world of pain, so if it's easy to fix, I'd really like to know how. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:50:32PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | >On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:25:11PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >| - The product product has the *insane* policy that if any files aren't | >| published, the entire product is inaccessible. | >| | >| Does anyone know how to fix this? Is there a knob for this somewhere in | >| CMF? | > | >I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using | >'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API. | > | >I'm sure that's an easy fix. | | Can you give us a hint of how to fix it? Is it a knob somewhere? | A DTML script? ;) The traceback is usually a valuable source of information. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems, LLC. http://enfoldsystems.com ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:25:11PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | - The product product has the *insane* policy that if any files aren't | published, the entire product is inaccessible. | | Does anyone know how to fix this? Is there a knob for this somewhere in | CMF? I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using 'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API. I'm sure that's an easy fix. Can you give us a hint of how to fix it? Is it a knob somewhere? A DTML script? ;) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:25:11PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | - The product product has the *insane* policy that if any files aren't | published, the entire product is inaccessible. | | Does anyone know how to fix this? Is there a knob for this somewhere in | CMF? I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using 'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API. I'm sure that's an easy fix. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems, LLC. http://enfoldsystems.com ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web