Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?
Tuesday, September 5, 2006, 2:06:09 PM, you wrote: Hello, > Marcus J. Ertl wrote: > I think you're over-dramatizing. Nearly all of the code in the example > application of my book still works with Zope 3.2, so it can't be that bad. Hmm, for the simple things, it's still good, right. But much of the "trickier things", not mentioned in the book, aren't that good! Perhabs it's silly me, forgetting to much of what I have learned before? But each version of Zope I try give me the feeling of starting from a new! > No, only if you want to upgrade to newer Zope versions. I think of upgrading as a "must" on public reachable systems, because of security fixes. Maybe there are no at the moment, but when they come, upgrades must go fast and smooth. Without recoding. > Wow, that's a lot of exclamation marks. Oh, sorry! Don't want do call out loud! > You make it sound like we change every single bit of Zope 3 in every > release. We all know that's not the case. Applications that use Zope 3 > components such as Plone 2.5, for example, work both with Zope X3 3.0 > packages and Zope 3.2 packages. So again, it can't be that bad. Then, I must have done something wrong. But if I look at the changelogs, all the ZCML-Changes, and API changes, it can't be that few. If I want to get on a state without any deprecation warnings, I have more to do then I like. It's very good to see, Zope3 ist developing, but now it's time, to get it stable too! Perhabs I'm not the right audience for Zope3? I'm working for a small company, doing the web stuff is just an unimportant part of my work. So each change I have to do is one to much. I would even love to use Zope for my privat homepage. But it's hobby, there's not much time to do even small changes. For larger environments (like Lexware) this may be no problem, there is time and money for incooperating changes in homemade packages. Bye Marcus -- Cat, n.: Lapwarmer with built-in buzzer. LARP-Welt, das LARP-Portal: http://www.larp-welt.de/ Coloful-Sky, meine kleine Drachenseite: http://www.colorful-sky.de/ ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 as a reliable platform?!?
Tuesday, September 5, 2006, 1:27:12 PM, you wrote: Hello! I was interessted in Zope3 at the early beginning, at still revisit it each half a year! But... >>> tests. We *did* have changes that generated deprecation warnings. But >>> that's something else. >> Not really, that for me is a non-backwards-compatible change, 'cos it >> requires me to rethink and recode, if not now then at some point in the >> future... Me too! That's a real problem for me too! Each time I revisit Zope3, it has changed very dramaticly! Old code, I wrote for learning Zope3 didn't work at all, I have do relearn Zope3 for new! And I realy don't know, what I would think, if I had Zope3 in use on a productiv system? Schould I really change all packages each half a year to reflect changes in Zope3? Don't get me wronge, Zope3 is realy great, it has many good ideas, a clean design, IMHO it is the best application server out there. But it still changes to much to be usefull for smaller companies, or even people like me, for someone just want to use it for hobby! I would not consider the API as stable! Two much changes! Shure, they all make things better, but it isn't stable! Sorry! Just my two cents! Bye Marcus -- Nothing is illegal until you get caught. LARP-Welt, das LARP-Portal: http://www.larp-welt.de/ Coloful-Sky, meine kleine Drachenseite: http://www.colorful-sky.de/ ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope3 forum
Tuesday, August 16, 2005, 12:27:09 PM, you wrote: Hallo, > On Tuesday 16 August 2005 04:45, Arthur (ccube) wrote: >> Is there any CMFBoard like forum for Zope3? or anyone is developing it? I would be very interested in something like this too! I'm still looking for a good, threaded forum, which may keep with more then 25.000 messages. Bye Marcus -- And in the end it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years. (Abraham Lincoln) PGP-Fingerprint: 4DD7 5D04 5706 362F 1237 85A8 CBF9 F6ED 0C54 74F2 Das LARP-Portal im Internet: LARP-Welt: http://www.larp-welt.de/ Mein Drachenseitchen: http://www.colorful-sky.de/ pgpyo4aaCXQOx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
