[Zope3-dev] Notice: zope.interface is now a separate project
At pycon we have just moved zope.interface into a separate project (in preparation for eggification). It's now a separate project at http://svn.zope.org/zope.interface/trunk/ and is stitched into zope as an external. To update existing trunk sandboxes, you'll want to make clean before doing svn up. If you have local changes under zope/interface, those will prevent an update. We are planning to do this to a number of other packages: zope.i18n zope.i18nmessageid zope.deprecation zope.exceptions zope.tal zope.component We'll give more status updates as we make progress on these. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Notice: zope.interface is now a separate project
On Monday 27 February 2006 16:56, Paul Winkler wrote: > At pycon we have just moved zope.interface > into a separate project (in preparation for eggification). > It's now a separate project at > http://svn.zope.org/zope.interface/trunk/ > and is stitched into zope as an external. I would really like to see a proposal for this. We need to stop using sprints as excuses for not following the process we decided to use. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Notice: zope.interface is now a separate project
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 09:24:49PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Monday 27 February 2006 16:56, Paul Winkler wrote: > > At pycon we have just moved zope.interface > > into a separate project (in preparation for eggification). > > It's now a separate project at > > http://svn.zope.org/zope.interface/trunk/ > > and is stitched into zope as an external. > > I would really like to see a proposal for this. We need to stop using sprints > as excuses for not following the process we decided to use. Haven't we said forever that we want parts of zope 3 to be easily usable independently of each other? Is there anything controversial about making that more convenient? -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Notice: zope.interface is now a separate project
Am 28.02.2006 um 17:28 schrieb Paul Winkler: On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 09:24:49PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 27 February 2006 16:56, Paul Winkler wrote: At pycon we have just moved zope.interface into a separate project (in preparation for eggification). It's now a separate project at http://svn.zope.org/zope.interface/trunk/ and is stitched into zope as an external. I would really like to see a proposal for this. We need to stop using sprints as excuses for not following the process we decided to use. Haven't we said forever that we want parts of zope 3 to be easily usable independently of each other? Is there anything controversial about making that more convenient? I have the feeling, that these questions are not exactly the right answer to the concerns Stephan had raised. I'm honestly sure that the work you are doing is good and that we all benefit from this, but proposals are also about communication. And communication is also important, especially in these times, where there is an ongoing discussion about the future of zope development goals. People who are using just the interfaces of z3 need to adapt to the reorganisation. I think twisted are using them. I'm surely in no position to judge about the technical implications, but the eggification process, for which this work is a preparation surely is a candidate for a proposal. With regards, __Janko ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Notice: zope.interface is now a separate project
On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 21:24 -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Monday 27 February 2006 16:56, Paul Winkler wrote: > > At pycon we have just moved zope.interface > > into a separate project (in preparation for eggification). > > It's now a separate project at > > http://svn.zope.org/zope.interface/trunk/ > > and is stitched into zope as an external. > > I would really like to see a proposal for this. We need to stop using sprints > as excuses for not following the process we decided to use. I understand your sentiment. This is a really minor change. Really just a repository rearrangement that doesn't affect python code. I don't think a proposal is really needed for this. We aren't going to move any others for now. We're doing the eggsploration on a branch and will certainly provide a proposal before doing anything permanent. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Notice: zope.interface is now a separate project
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:28, Paul Winkler wrote: > Haven't we said forever that we want parts of zope 3 to be easily usable > independently of each other? Is there anything controversial about > making that more convenient? My post is not about the merit of the change, but about neglecting the process that *we all* decided to use. I was against always requiring proposals, other voted for it. Now that we have it we have to use it. Sprints have a tendency to hastily make decisions; I certainly did my part as well. Sprints should be either used to brainstorm and write proposals or implement existing ones. We cannot just neglect our own process, otherwise its worth nothing. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com