Re: [Zope3-dev] Some thoughts for future releases of Zope 3

2007-03-23 Thread Baiju M

Christian Theune wrote:


Hi,

Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 14:43 +0530 schrieb Baiju M:


I think putting all eggs in one place for each release will be useful
for those who make
offline installation/deploy. So they can easily make use the
'download-cache' and 'install-from-cache'
options of zc.buildout without any hurdle.



I don't think that this requires a central download location for each
release.



Yes, but users can grab all packages from one location and put together 
along with their packages.
Some other egg based web frameworks follows this line, for example 
Pylons has a location like this:
http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.2 , http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.3 
, http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.4
And this is a good way for archiving our upcoming releases.  And another 
thing is that we need not to

solely depend on PyPI.

Regards,
Baiju M

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Some thoughts for future releases of Zope 3

2007-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 14:43 +0530 schrieb Baiju M:
> I think putting all eggs in one place for each release will be useful 
> for those who make
> offline installation/deploy.  So they can easily make use the 
> 'download-cache' and 'install-from-cache'
> options of zc.buildout without any hurdle.

I don't think that this requires a central download location for each
release.

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Some thoughts for future releases of Zope 3

2007-03-23 Thread Baiju M

Christian Theune wrote:


Hi,

Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 14:00 +0530 schrieb Baiju M:
 


For 3.4.0 all individual packages will be having a unique version
number (3.4.0), but this won't be the case for 3.5.0, in Zope 3.5.0
zope.interface may be still in 3.4.0 version.

In PyPI we will put all latest stable releases of individual packages,
so a package in PyPI may be a newer version compared to the latest
Zope 3 release.  Then, to install a particular Zope 3 release, user
should always use download.zope.org as eggs location
(--find-links option in easy_install or zc.buildout).
   



I think we can have a meta-package for "the Zope application" that
defines a dependency for all packages, some of those might still be
3.4.0 whilst others might be 3.5.1 etc. I don't think we really need the
download areas to gather the eggs.
 

I think putting all eggs in one place for each release will be useful 
for those who make
offline installation/deploy.  So they can easily make use the 
'download-cache' and 'install-from-cache'

options of zc.buildout without any hurdle.

Regards,
Baiju  M

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Some thoughts for future releases of Zope 3

2007-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 14:00 +0530 schrieb Baiju M:
> Hi,
>(Please correct me, if I am wrong)
> 
> All eggs of a particular release will be available from :
> http://download.zope.org/distribution/zope3/ .  Here is some future
> locations:
> 
>   3.4.0 - distribution/zope3/3.4.0
>   3.4.1 - distribution/zope3/3.4.1
>   3.5.0 - distribution/zope3/3.5.0
> 
> For 3.4.0 all individual packages will be having a unique version
> number (3.4.0), but this won't be the case for 3.5.0, in Zope 3.5.0
> zope.interface may be still in 3.4.0 version.
> 
> In PyPI we will put all latest stable releases of individual packages,
> so a package in PyPI may be a newer version compared to the latest
> Zope 3 release.  Then, to install a particular Zope 3 release, user
> should always use download.zope.org as eggs location
> (--find-links option in easy_install or zc.buildout).

I think we can have a meta-package for "the Zope application" that
defines a dependency for all packages, some of those might still be
3.4.0 whilst others might be 3.5.1 etc. I don't think we really need the
download areas to gather the eggs.

> We *should* make 'zpkg' based releases, until 3.6 release.

Right. Maybe even longer, I don't know. We *really* have to start
spreading the word on how to develop a Zope application with buildout if
we want to retire our normal releases.

We also have to think about the PR issues we're gonna face IMHO. We
might decide to not do anything for PR, but we should have looked at the
consequences and know what we're heading for.

Christian

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[Zope3-dev] Some thoughts for future releases of Zope 3

2007-03-23 Thread Baiju M

Hi,
  (Please correct me, if I am wrong)

All eggs of a particular release will be available from :
http://download.zope.org/distribution/zope3/ .  Here is some future
locations:

 3.4.0 - distribution/zope3/3.4.0
 3.4.1 - distribution/zope3/3.4.1
 3.5.0 - distribution/zope3/3.5.0

For 3.4.0 all individual packages will be having a unique version
number (3.4.0), but this won't be the case for 3.5.0, in Zope 3.5.0
zope.interface may be still in 3.4.0 version.

In PyPI we will put all latest stable releases of individual packages,
so a package in PyPI may be a newer version compared to the latest
Zope 3 release.  Then, to install a particular Zope 3 release, user
should always use download.zope.org as eggs location
(--find-links option in easy_install or zc.buildout).

We *should* make 'zpkg' based releases, until 3.6 release.

Anything to add here?

Regards,
Baiju M

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