Re: [Zope3-Users] "Hi, I'm new here"

2005-07-11 Thread Ivo van der Wijk
On 7/11/05, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hehe,
> 
> Well, it's ALMOST true, since you guys have done so much amazing work
> since I last looked in!
> 

Welcome :)

> Anyway, as a newbie, I got some questions:
> 
> - What docs should I read first?
> 

Order Stephan Richter's and Philipp von Weitershausen's books. If
you're impatient, Stephan's book is online as well, but you'll still
definately want a hardcopy

> - How do I get Zope 3 up and running on Windows, and what's the "best"
> version for me to try?
> 

No experience here, but I don't think it's alot different from recent
Zope2 installations (make, make install, mkzopeinstance, etc). Both
books assume Zope X3 3.0, but the current svn trunk is pretty usable
as well.

> - Where can I find good reference docs? What books should I buy?
> 

See above, the zope3 section on zope.org and the included README's

> - Are there any good example apps I can look at so I can build "my first
> app", which is likely to be Swishdot ;-)
> 

Both Stephan and Philipp walk you through the creation of a simple
application (Stephan actually create's a Messageboard - we already
have our swishdot!)

Other examples (such as a wiki) are included in the Zope3 release. For
a more complex example, you might want to look at cubic:

http://opensource.amazesolutions.com/projects/zope3/cubic

Cheers

  Ivo

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[Zope3-Users] Zope3 Product directory Problem

2005-07-11 Thread shariq suhail

  
Hi,
  I have download Zope3 by using Python 2.3 but i didn't find any Product directory where I can install Plone.
How to install Plone.
Kindly help me,
Thanks in advance
Shariq



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Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope3 Product directory Problem

2005-07-11 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello Shariq,

Plone is a product for Zope 2.xx.

Monday, July 11, 2005, 1:07:12 PM, you wrote:

ss>   
ss> Hi,
ss>   I have download Zope3 by using Python 2.3 but i didn't find
ss> any Product directory where I can install Plone.
ss> How to install Plone.
ss> Kindly help me,
ss> Thanks in advance
ss> Shariq

br,

Adam

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[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] Error doing "Chapter 13, Writing a new Content Object" of the zope 3 book.

2005-07-11 Thread Dylan Reinhardt
Please note, this discussion belongs on zope3-users, not zope3-dev. 
I've forwarded it over, please follow up there.


On 7/10/05, Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 09 July 2005 16:31, Pupeno wrote:
> > I've commented out
> >  > interface=".interfaces.IMessageContainer" />
> > and Zope started, but I do not have the option to add a message board.

Interfaces only have those permissions you give them.  Commenting out
a required role does not make the interface *less* restrictive (as you
apparently expect), but *more* restrictive.  The interface was
previously restricted to a specific role...now it is granted to
nobody.

To grant unrestricted access, try this:



I would expect this may also clear up your display problem... or at
least get you to the next error condition.  :-)

HTH,

Dylan
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[Zope3-Users] Recommend way to ..(question inside)

2005-07-11 Thread Alec Munro
Sorry for the vague subject, but I wasn't sure how to summarize this.
It's not exactly a Zope question, but perhaps Zope has some tricks to
make it easier.

In a couple of situations, I want to have a collection of objects, and
allow users to select from those objects, and personalize them. The
way I was thinking about this was that I would have a second class of
objects that contained the additional properties as well as a property
containing the personalized object. This seems to be similar to the
way adapters operate. However, generally an adapter is created when
used, and discarded, correct? What is the recommended way to go about
this?

Hopefully that is enough information, and someone can confirm my speculations.
Thanks,

Alec Munro
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[Zope3-Users] WYSIWYG editing of HTML

2005-07-11 Thread Pupeno
Hello,
I am new to Zope 3, I am reading the book, I am on chapter 15 (just finished) 
and I am definitly going to use a WYSIWYG HTML widget and field on the 
systems I am going to do.
Is anybody working on that ? Is there anyone that is likely to become the 
standard Zope 3 WYSIWYG HTML widget ?
If not' I'll pick one that I like and I'll try to Zopeise it.
Thanks.
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Re: [Zope3-Users] Recommend way to ..(question inside)

2005-07-11 Thread Gary Poster


On Jul 11, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Alec Munro wrote:


Sorry for the vague subject, but I wasn't sure how to summarize this.
It's not exactly a Zope question, but perhaps Zope has some tricks to
make it easier.

In a couple of situations, I want to have a collection of objects, and
allow users to select from those objects, and personalize them. The
way I was thinking about this was that I would have a second class of
objects that contained the additional properties as well as a property
containing the personalized object. This seems to be similar to the
way adapters operate. However, generally an adapter is created when
used, and discarded, correct? What is the recommended way to go about
this?


Assuming this is for authenticated users, you might want to look at  
zope/app/principalannotation.


As you said, Zope 3 does currently take the tack of transient  
adapters, although there is a common way to effectively have  
persistent adapters.  The Zope 3 transient adapters can store their  
information persistently in annotations or other similar structures:  
object annotations, principal annotations, session data,  or  
elsewhere.  Thus you effectively get persistent adapters, with the  
data compartmentalized, and sometimes discarded, on the basis of how  
you store it.  You can even store instances themselves in these  
annotations, and have the registered adapters just functions that  
look up the instances, creating them if necessary.


As I said, it sounds like you might want the principal annotations  
flavor of this approach.


Gary

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Re: [Zope3-Users] WYSIWYG editing of HTML

2005-07-11 Thread Gary Poster


On Jul 11, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Pupeno wrote:


Hello,
I am new to Zope 3, I am reading the book, I am on chapter 15 (just  
finished)

and I am definitly going to use a WYSIWYG HTML widget and field on the
systems I am going to do.
Is anybody working on that ? Is there anyone that is likely to  
become the

standard Zope 3 WYSIWYG HTML widget ?
If not' I'll pick one that I like and I'll try to Zopeise it.


My main desire is that the widget allow multiple instances on the  
same page.  http://mjablonski.zope.de/Epoz (a Zope 2 WYSIWYG)  
recently got that feature.  http://kupu.oscom.org/ has had it for a  
bit longer.Zope 2 has both of these choices, for developers with  
differing tastes.  I'd love for Zope 3 to have both choices as well.   
Choose the one that appeals to your style more, I'd say, and run with  
it!


There are other HTML WYSIWYG editors out there--http:// 
www.dynarch.com/projects/htmlarea/ for instance--but Zope has  
centered around the two I mentioned first.


Gary
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