RE: [Zope3-Users] Re: How can I get a viewlet's docstring from within aviewlet manager?

2008-06-19 Thread Andreas Johnsen
Thanks, that solved my problem. Now I can get hold of the docstring I
want with "viewlet.__class__.__base__.__doc__" 


Andreas

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> von Weitershausen
> Sent: 14. juni 2008 11:22
> To: zope3-users@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope3-Users] Re: How can I get a viewlet's 
> docstring from within aviewlet manager?
> 
> Andreas Johnsen wrote:
> > Let's say I have defined 'class MyViewlet(viewlet.ViewletBase)' and 
> > registered it with the  directive. The class 
> > 'MyViewlet' has a docstring. How can I get this docstring from the
> > render() method in a viewlet manager?
> > 
> > In the viewlet manager the viewlet instance is an instance of 
> > 'zope.viewlet.metaconfigure.MyViewlet' and not my class 'MyViewlet'.
> 
> Yeah. Dynamic class generation sucks. For some reason, the 
> bad example led by browser:page et.al. has caught on and now 
> nearly all browser-related ZCML directives do it.
> 
> > Is there a path from 'zope.viewlet.metaconfigure.MyViewlet' to the 
> > class 'MyViewlet' or any other suggestions on how to get 
> the docstring 
> > defined in my class from a viewlet manager?
> 
> You could get the right base class from __bases__ and look at 
> that class's __doc__.
> 
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[Zope3-Users] Zopeproject-generated app - problem with temporary paths to egg packages

2008-06-19 Thread Alek
Hello,
For some mysterious reason my app (generated by zopeproject) uses eggs from
some temporary path, even when the original egg is not zipped.
This makes impossible to set breakpoint somewhere in egg code, or to quickly
navigate to exception point in eclipse pydev.

Is there a simple way to get rid of this? In grokproject app I haven't
observed such an effect - eggs were used just where they exist.

Example below. Both eggs are not zipped and exist in c:\documents and
settings\aleksk\buildout-eggs\, while when the app is run - they seem to be
copied to temporary path:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\documents and
settings\aleksk\buildout-eggs\tmpzotmjy\zope.publisher-3.5.2-py2.5.egg\zope\publisher\publish.py",
line 130, in publish
  File "c:\documents and
settings\aleksk\buildout-eggs\tmpzotmjy\zope.publisher-3.5.2-py2.5.egg\zope\publisher\http.py",
line 456, in traverse
  File "c:\documents and
settings\aleksk\buildout-eggs\tmpzotmjy\zope.publisher-3.5.2-py2.5.egg\zope\publisher\base.py",
line 263, in traverse
  File "c:\documents and
settings\aleksk\buildout-eggs\tmpbu3h57\zope.app.publication-3.4.3-py2.5.egg\zope\app\publication\publicationtraverse.py",
line 61, in traverseName
  File "c:\documents and
settings\aleksk\buildout-eggs\tmpbu3h57\zope.app.publication-3.4.3-py2.5.egg\zope\app\publication\traversers.py",
line 44, in publishTraverse

Warm regards,
Alek
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[Zope3-Users] Re: Zopeproject-generated app - problem with temporary paths to egg packages

2008-06-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Alek wrote:

Hello,
For some mysterious reason my app (generated by zopeproject) uses eggs 
from some temporary path, even when the original egg is not zipped.


This is a known setuptools problem. It compiles .py modules to .pyc 
files in a temporary location, thus the .pyc files contain references to 
the wrong path.


This makes impossible to set breakpoint somewhere in egg code, or to 
quickly navigate to exception point in eclipse pydev.


Is there a simple way to get rid of this?


Delete all .pyc files from your egg directory, e.g.:

  find . -name "*.pyc" | xargs rm


In grokproject app I haven't observed such an effect - eggs were used
just where they exist.


grokproject should suffer from the same problem.

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Re: [Zope3-Users] Zopeproject-generated app - problem with temporary paths to egg packages

2008-06-19 Thread Benji York
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Alek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> For some mysterious reason my app (generated by zopeproject) uses eggs from
> some temporary path, even when the original egg is not zipped.

This is a known problem with setuptools.  The easiest way around it is
to remove the egg's .pyc files.  They will be regenerated with correct
path info.
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Senior Software Engineer
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[Zope3-Users] Python Package Construction

2008-06-19 Thread Tim Cook
Hi All,

I would like feedback on the proper/best 'Pythonic' approach.

This is a rather subjective question. Where is the trade-off between
package name lengths and faithfulness to the specifications?

[Discussion follows]

I am implementing a set of specifications for healthcare IT for Python
programmers to be able to develop interoperable healthcare applications.
I am using ZCA (aka.Zope3) extensively.  

My desire is to implement the specs as faithfully as possible for two
reasons:
1) teachability -  how easy/difficult is it to teach the framework and
specifications to new developers?
2) maintainability - which approach, if either, will make it easier to
maintain the framework if/when the specifications change?

My first pass was to develop a skeleton of the specs using Interfaces
from the ZCA approach and then the implementations following the
document structure of the specs.  

The specs are available via SVN at:
http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/ 

It is best to probably use real examples. Following the document
structure for packaging AND using the ZCA convention of having a
sub-directory for interfaces caused massive circular import issues due
to some classes being used in the interface definition of classes inside
the same interface file being imported into the implementation file.  If
that sounds confusing; it is.  It was confusing to write too. :-)  If
anyone has questions I'll try to expand.

It is best to probably use specific, real examples.
http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/rm/data_types_im.pdf

(note class names are converted from the upper case, underscore
separated style to CamelCase)

The package openehr.rm.datatypes.text defines the implementation class
CodePhrase.  The associated interface file
openehr.rm.datatypes.interfaces.text needed CodePhrase as an attribute
type in  DvCodedText and TermMapping needs both CodePhrase and
DvCodedText.  This quickly got out of control.

So my solution to solving the circular imports is to take each interface
and implementation and put them into one file. Research tells me that
this is probably the second mostly popular ZCA approach.  So,
ICodePhrase and CodePhrase are now in
openehr/rm/datatypes/codephrase.py, DvCodeText and IDvCodedText in
openehr/rm/datatypes/dvcodedtext.py, etc.  

But wait, now I don't have a 'text package'.  So if codephrase.py and
dvcodedtext.py were in openehr/rm/datatypes/text/ that would solve the
problem.  BUT! Throughout the specs many of the names are VERY long
already.  Adding another package name that is from 4 - 15 (or more)
characters long adds to the length of already long import statements,
i.e.

(sorry for the email line wraps)

from openehr.am.archetype.creferenceobject import
ICReferenceObject,CReferenceObject

should really be

from openehr.am.archetype.constraintmodel.creferenceobject import
ICReferenceObject,CReferenceObject

Thoughts, opinions and jeers all gratefully accepted.  :-)

--Tim



 


 


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AW: [Zope3-Users] Python Package Construction

2008-06-19 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Tim

> Betreff: [Zope3-Users] Python Package Construction
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I would like feedback on the proper/best 'Pythonic' approach.
> 
> This is a rather subjective question. Where is the trade-off 
> between package name lengths and faithfulness to the specifications?
> 
> [Discussion follows]
> 
> I am implementing a set of specifications for healthcare IT 
> for Python programmers to be able to develop interoperable 
> healthcare applications.
> I am using ZCA (aka.Zope3) extensively.  
> 
> My desire is to implement the specs as faithfully as possible for two
> reasons:
> 1) teachability -  how easy/difficult is it to teach the 
> framework and specifications to new developers?
> 2) maintainability - which approach, if either, will make it 
> easier to maintain the framework if/when the specifications change?
> 
> My first pass was to develop a skeleton of the specs using 
> Interfaces from the ZCA approach and then the implementations 
> following the document structure of the specs.  
> 
> The specs are available via SVN at:
> http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/arch
> itecture/ 
> 
> It is best to probably use real examples. Following the 
> document structure for packaging AND using the ZCA convention 
> of having a sub-directory for interfaces caused massive 
> circular import issues due to some classes being used in the 
> interface definition of classes inside the same interface 
> file being imported into the implementation file.  If that 
> sounds confusing; it is.  It was confusing to write too. :-)  
> If anyone has questions I'll try to expand.
> 
> It is best to probably use specific, real examples.
> http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/arch
> itecture/rm/data_types_im.pdf
> 
> (note class names are converted from the upper case, 
> underscore separated style to CamelCase)
> 
> The package openehr.rm.datatypes.text defines the 
> implementation class CodePhrase.  The associated interface 
> file openehr.rm.datatypes.interfaces.text needed CodePhrase 
> as an attribute type in  DvCodedText and TermMapping needs 
> both CodePhrase and DvCodedText.  This quickly got out of control.
> 
> So my solution to solving the circular imports is to take 
> each interface and implementation and put them into one file. 
> Research tells me that this is probably the second mostly 
> popular ZCA approach.  So, ICodePhrase and CodePhrase are now 
> in openehr/rm/datatypes/codephrase.py, DvCodeText and 
> IDvCodedText in openehr/rm/datatypes/dvcodedtext.py, etc.  
> 
> But wait, now I don't have a 'text package'.  So if 
> codephrase.py and dvcodedtext.py were in 
> openehr/rm/datatypes/text/ that would solve the problem.  
> BUT! Throughout the specs many of the names are VERY long 
> already.  Adding another package name that is from 4 - 15 (or 
> more) characters long adds to the length of already long 
> import statements, i.e.
> 
> (sorry for the email line wraps)
> 
> from openehr.am.archetype.creferenceobject import 
> ICReferenceObject,CReferenceObject
> 
> should really be
> 
> from openehr.am.archetype.constraintmodel.creferenceobject 
> import ICReferenceObject,CReferenceObject
> 
> Thoughts, opinions and jeers all gratefully accepted.  :-)

For a usecase like this, I personaly recommend to 
defina all interfaces in one module which probably
is a namespace if you need alot of interfaces to define.

e.g.

openehr.interfaces.foobar.IFooBar

the reason why:

- spearate interface from implementation. That's an 
  important aspect in a component architecture. If you
  define your implementation and interfaces in one file,
  then you don't need a component architecture.

- interfaces are separated in a well know place.

This means if you define a module and you like to import 
an interface you can import just one line:

from openehr import interfaces

Which makes it very simple.


Regards
Roger Ineichen

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