Re: [Zope3-Users] [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2008-12-19 Thread Chris Withers
Tim Cook wrote:
 As I said before I may have miss-diagnosed the problem and may fix may
 break other things?   

This is what a full-coverage unit and functional test suit is for.
You have got automated tests for all this stuff, right?

Chris

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Re: [Zope3-Users] [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2008-12-19 Thread Tim Cook
Hi Chris,

On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:06 +, Chris Withers wrote:
 Tim Cook wrote:
  As I said before I may have miss-diagnosed the problem and may fix may
  break other things?   
 
 This is what a full-coverage unit and functional test suit is for.
 You have got automated tests for all this stuff, right?
 

NO! I do not!  I am a ZCA user not a full time python programmer.  That
is why I a asking for help here.  Initially at least on the Zope Users
list.  

If you are expecting ZCA users to be full time Python gurus then why
have two mailing lists?  It seems that you are asking a user to
provide the developers with a ready to commit patch.  I wish I had
those skills and could do so.  

Alas, it isn't going to happen.  

Cheers,
Tim

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Re: [Zope3-Users] [Zope-dev] Next Step to Bug Resolution???

2008-12-19 Thread Tim Cook
Thanks Dieter,

On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 19:41 +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote:
 I often approach situations like this with so called Monkey Patches:
 I replace or enhance classes or methods during startup (triggered
 by some startup event).
 
 This may not be optimal but allows me to solve my problems without
 tight coupling with the core developpers who usually do not have
 my problems and tend not see them as very high priority.

I am starting to see why other Python developers aren't too interested
in Zope.  Despite the awesome power of the architecture.

I've been poking around and using and supporting Zope since 1999.  But
because I am not an expert programmer (my skills are in another field)
and because I do not know Zope inside and out.  I am being chastised for
not supplying my own complete fixes to the developers or at least being
able to cover for their mistakes inside my application.  Silly me.
Working in open source for 14 years and I had no idea it worked like
this.   

I'm sure glad that we do not run openEHR like that.

Cheers,
Tim

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