[Zope3-Users] feedback while asking response
Is there a feedback-mechanism when Zope-3 is responding a html-request which takes some time? i.e. method(self): -> output some start-text sleep 10s -> output some text sleep 10s -> output some end-text any ideas? Markus ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
RE: [Zope3-Users] feedback while asking response
Hmm, in which way this interacts with an application-class? It's not a change of any zope-intern class, or? i.e. my test-class is: class adm: def admTestOut( self): """ test for "online-feedback" """ response = self.request.response response.write( "") time.sleep(10) response.write( "") snip on configure.zcml: Ok, this does not work, a cleary case: the response will display "" after 10s. In which way, I have to integrate a View-Class and the _call_-method to my application? Thanks for help Markus Am Mittwoch, 13. April 2005 16:32 schrieb Stephan Richter: [...] > You can do this by directly writing to the response and not returning > anything through the executing method: > > class View(object): > > def __call__(self): > response = self.request.response > # ... set all necessary headers > response.write(data) >sleep(10) > response.write(data) >sleep(10) >response.write(data) > [...] ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] feedback while asking response
Hello Roger, ok, I'll try it on weekend. TCPWatch is just an unknown tool for me, but I'll try "Chapter 44, Creating Functional Doctests" from "The Zope 3 Developers Book" - any other additional docs? Markus Am Donnerstag, 14. April 2005 10:09 schrieb Roger Ineichen: > Hi Markus [...] > Hm, Are you sure the response get send after 10s > to the client or does the client only render the page if > the response ends. > Can you use TCPWatch for trace the response from the server? [...] ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] postgresql, psycopgda, Zope3-trunk
Hello, I have to connect to a postgres-DB from a zope3-class. Ok, how to use SQL in TAL is in: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/sqlexpr/README.txt I'm searching for a "zoponic" way of asking postgres in a zope3-class. In which status psycopgda is in relation to Zope3-trunk? Is there any up-to-date documentation out there? You can drop me a hint, please? Markus ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: postgresql, psycopgda, Zope3-trunk
Hi all, Ok, thanks a lot - seems to work in a first step, but i've to patch sqlos in this kind: # svn diff Index: event/subscriber.py === --- event/subscriber.py (revision 10721) +++ event/subscriber.py (working copy) @@ -23,9 +23,9 @@ # If we don't do this, the cache will be cleared # and if we try to re-fetch the object we will # lose the new values. -obj.syncUpdate() +removeSecurityProxy(obj).syncUpdate() -expired(obj) +expired(removeSecurityProxy(obj)) sqlobjectCreatedSubscriber = sqlobjectModifiedSubscriber (author is reading here?) in my configure.zcml: the component line is new to the (very good) Readme from http://codespeak.net/z3/sqlos/index.html Markus Am Freitag, 15. April 2005 15:43 schrieb Derrick Hudson: [...] > > http://codespeak.net/z3/sqlos/ > http://sqlobject.org/ > [...] ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] recursive constraints
Hello, there are a few (older) mails about "recursive constraints" in Zope3. I wasn't able to find a solution for this small problem: in interface.py: class IIkGroup(IIkSClass): def __setitem__(name, object): """Add a IIkGroup object.""" __setitem__.precondition = ItemTypePrecondition( IIkInterface) [...] only Instances of IkInterface are allowed to add, ok so far. Now it should be possible to add an Instance of IkGroup (on itself)? "... ItemTypePrecondition( IIkGroup, IIkInterface) ..." is a stupid idea, because pathon don't know IIkGroup() at this time. I don't wont to implement an "IContained"-mechanism and setTaggedValue... seems to be obsolete - is this possible? Markus ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] vocabulary of object-references
Hi all, I have build an List of Choices and it works well: in interface: hostlist = List( title=_(u"Host List"), description=_(u"Host List"), value_type = Choice( title=_(u"Host"), description=_(u"Host"), required = True, vocabulary = "IkGroupHosts"), required=False) vocabulary: def HostsVocabulary(context): dynHostList = [] for (oid, oobj) in iid.items(): if IIkHost.providedBy(oobj.object): dynHostList.append( SimpleTerm( oobj.object.getIkTitle(), oobj.object.getIkTitle())) return SimpleVocabulary( dynHostList) object has string-result: hostlist[u'titan', u'radon'] now i want to store references in (my new) lIst by vocabulary: def HostsVocabulary(context): dynHostList = [] iid = zapi.getUtility( IIntIds, 'iid') for (oid, oobj) in iid.items(): if IIkHost.providedBy(oobj.object): dynHostList.append( SimpleTerm( KeyReferenceToPersistent(oobj.object), oobj.object.getIkTitle())) return SimpleVocabulary( dynHostList) when commit the form: [...] File "/opt/ikom/Zope3/src/zope/schema/_bootstrapfields.py", line 133, in validate if value == self.missing_value: File "/opt/ikom/Zope3/src/zope/app/keyreference/persistent.py", line 56, in __cmp__ if self.key_type_id == other.key_type_id: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'key_type_id' Any idea or other way of storing references in my Hostlist? Markus ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Zope3, sqlos and workflow
Hello, is there any possibility of storing attributes- AND workflow-data of an (Zope3-)Instance in a SQL-Database (via sqlos)? If not, I have to connect the object attributes to SQL and the object workflow instance to ZODB - a good (scalable) solution? Any idea or URL is welcome. Markus ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Convert from string to class
Hello, what about: http://www.talkaboutprogramming.com/group/comp.lang.python/messages/318370.html Markus 17.01.2006 23:10, Florian Lindner: > Hello, > I've a string like "zope.app.folder.Folder" and I want to get the class > zope.app.folder.Folder from this string. How can I do that? > It's probably more a python problem that Zope... but I hope you excuse. > > > Thanks, > > Florian > ___ > Zope3-users mailing list > Zope3-users@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] international publicity to zope3
Hi there, maybe this is an interesting chance to give international publicity to zope3. see here: http://www.plat-forms.org/ I think, the result of such programming contest will bring more transparency in pros and cons of Zope3 development, which can be published to the world. Hey, there are really good people in development of Zope3 and the component-architecture of “our python-application-server” should be compared to other applications, or? (ok, not new ...) My own software-developer-skill isn't good enough for this contest. The results will be published on a high level; zope3 and the developers can obtain great acceptance, i think. Any developer there ( 3 developer a 30 h)? Bye, Markus Leist ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] object containment of root folder
Hi all,
what's the best/preferred way of dynamically restricting possible object types
in the root-folder of a zope3.3-instance?
In normal object this is defined in _interfaces.py_:
(e.g.)
---
[...]
from zope.app.container.constraints import contains
[...]
class INet(ISupernode):
[...]
contains('org.ict_ok.components.host.interfaces.IHost')
---
I have some bootstrap-routines for creating and modifying
utilities. Here i have to dynamically set the contains of the
root-folder.
Any Idea? Thanx.
Markus
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[Zope3-Users] crossbar switch for event
hello list, i have to focus the following development objective: on a runnung Zope3.3-system there are: - a zope3-Object "A" - a zope3-Object "B" - an Utility with a list of event(name)s (e.g. 'shutdown') each object "A" and "B" have event-inputs and -outputs. now we take the event "shutdown" an give the object "A" the facility to send/raise this event. on the other hand we configure objekt "B" to "hear" on event "shutdown" by a general event handler to call some method(s). When the registration of an event between the objects and the utility is bidirectional, this utility is some kind of "event crossbar switch" like obj 1 <-> <-> 0 obj 2 0 0 <-> obj 3 0 <-> 0 obj a obj b obj c which _dynamically_ can be configured through the web. (some other aspects are routing, metric/priority, detection of event cycle ...) Is there some piece of code? Any ideas? I have to implement such crossbar switch this week (and want to publish a link to sourcecode here) any help welcome, Markus. ps. should i crosspost to zope3-dev? ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Using global utilities when creating an global utility
Hi, In our project we have a supervisor-utility (started first by zcml..) and some other utilities which creation is logged to this utilitiy. hope, this helps tschuess, Markus -- def bootStrapSubscriberDatabase(event): """initialisation of cron utility on first database startup """ dummy_db, connection, dummy_root, root_folder = \ getInformationFromEvent(event) madeIkAdmUtilCron = ensureUtility( root_folder, IIkAdmUtilCron, 'IkAdmUtilCron', IkAdmUtilCron, '', copy_to_zlog=False, asObject=True) if isinstance(madeIkAdmUtilCron, IkAdmUtilCron): logger.info( u"bootstrap: Ensure named IkAdmUtilCron") dcore = IWriteZopeDublinCore(madeIkAdmUtilCron) dcore.title = u"IKOMtrol Timer" dcore.created = datetime.now(berlinTZ) sitem = root_folder.getSiteManager() utils = [ util for util in sitem.registeredUtilities() if util.provided.isOrExtends(IIkAdmUtilSupervisor)] instIkAdmUtilSupervisor = utils[0].component instIkAdmUtilSupervisor.appendEventHistory( \ u" bootstrap: made IIkAdmUtilCron-Utility") recursiveCronSubscriber( root_folder) transaction.get().commit() connection.close() -- Am Dienstag, 19. Juni 2007 15:53 schrieb Jan-Wijbrand Kolman: > Hi, > > > I'm trying to implement a global utility that makes use of other > global utilities when it is created. In other words, the __init__ of > my utility class, tries to get to other utilities. > > This does not work however, as the utilities I'd like to get are not > registered yet when my own utility is created - even if I made sure > the registrations for the other utilities would've been performed > before "my" utility is registered. > > I tried to find the reason and I think I found it: when the zcml > directive for a utility is read, an action object is created. Somewhat > later in the configuration process these action objects are executed > and the actual utility registration takes place. > > It is when the action object is created that "my" utility is > instantiated. And of course, no other actual registrations were made > yet at that point, because no actions have been executed yet, so not > utilities are available to make use of. > > Is there a way to overcome this? (or to put it differently, why is > "my" utility created when the action object is created and not just > before the actual registration?) > > > kind regards, > jw > ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] z3c.form: Integer-based fields incorrectly validated
Hi, do you have a from zope.schema.fieldproperty import FieldProperty class Foo: implements(IFoo) foobarid = FieldProperty( IFoo['foobarid']) ? Regards, Markus Am Mittwoch 01 August 2007 um 19:15 Uhr schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > In one of my forms, one field is defined like that: > > foobarid = Int( > title=u'ID', > description=u'ID of Foobar', > required=False) > > When I add this field in a z3c.form based form, e.g.: > > fields = field.Fields(IFoo['foobarid']) > > Then the validation of the field fails, e.g. if I type in a correct value, > e.g. "123", zope returns an error: > > "The entered value is not a valid integer literal." > > Interestingly, if I set "1,123" as value, zope outputs: > > "Objekttyp ist falsch." > > I tried to investigate this futher, but things are getting complicated at the > file "converter.py", line 96 (no clue what a formatter is). > > Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? > > Best Regards, > Hermann > ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Request in Zope3-Thread
Hi, i have created a thread in my zope3-application like the zope.sendmail.QueueProcessorThread. What i want to do: "fake" a request-context to get a local Utility (via Sitemanager) configured in ZODB and call some methods which will change some object-attributes in ZODB. Any ideas or hints? Markus ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Request in Zope3-Thread
Hi Philipp, hi list, maybe I'm wrong, but after several tests i have noticed this change (caused by threading environment): ... setSite(old_site) transaction.get().commit() conn.close() ... with transaction.commit() there are some: > ZODB.POSException.ConnectionStateError: Cannot close a connection joined to a > transaction under special circumstances (more threads, some commits) Does this transaction.get()... is the right way to interact with the Thread-aware transaction manager? Markus Am Samstag 04 August 2007 um 11:13 Uhr schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Markus Leist wrote: > > i have created a thread in my zope3-application like the > > zope.sendmail.QueueProcessorThread. > > > > What i want to do: "fake" a request-context to get a local Utility > > (via Sitemanager) configured in ZODB and call some methods which will > > change some object-attributes in ZODB. > > You'll have to open a new connection to the database in the thread and > get the root object from it (you'll have to give the thread a reference > to the database, which can be accessed from any persistent object thru > obj._p_jar, IIRC): > >conn = db.open() >root = conn.root() >root_folder = root['Application'] > > Now you can traverse to the site that contains the local utilities > (unless that's the root_folder) and make the current active site > (current = for this particular thread): > >from zope.app.component.hooks import setSite >site = root_folder['path']['to']['the']['site'] >setSite(site) > > Now do your component lookups, object modifications, etc. Don't forget > to commit the transaction at the end: > >import transaction >transaction.commit() > > and close the connection: > >conn.close() > > ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Request in Zope3-Thread
Hi, i don't understand, you are right: >class TransactionManager(object): >def commit(self): >return self.get().commit() after deletion of >setSite(old_site) it "seems to be better", but under some circumstances there still is: ZODB.POSException.ConnectionStateError: Cannot close a connection joined to a transaction (sometimes). Hmm, it's hard to debug this part of my app. I will do some kind of "printf-debugging" in a few days. the problem appears in an error-handler of my app ... and there are no errors in/with the application ;-) Thanx for the quick answer. Markus Am Montag 20 August 2007 um 19:30 Uhr schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [...] > transaction.get().commit() should be completely equivalent to > transaction.commit(). The setSite(old_site) call doesn't look > necessary since the reference to the site is local to the thread. ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] z3c.form / TextLine-Schema in List-Schema
Hi list,
z3c.form has a very generic, well approach - but at the moment it's to
complicated to me.
I have an interface defined like:
100 osList = List (
101 title = _("operating systems"),
103 value_type = TextLine(
105 title = _("Operatingsystem"),
107 default = u"",
108 required = False),
109 required = False)
[originally from
http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/interfaces.py ]
when z3c.form will do his update, i'll get a
ComponentLookupError: (
(,
,
http://localhost:8081/cc071bd954f8fd7b3fccf9fab2b1c7b58/add_host.html>),
, u'')
[full trace on http://paste.lisp.org/display/47105 ]
ok, the problem is in getMultiAdapter() ..
which does'n find the correct widget to render a TextLine into a
List-HTML-Widget.
(After hours of searching, i feel stupid ... but it's not rocket science, or?)
Where and how such a widget must be registered and implemented?
Does anyone have such an extension of the ze3.form-widgets or
can tell me a kind of skeleton for this approach?
Can we migrate code from zope.formlib to z3c.form?
Any help would be appreciated.
Markus
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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3c.form / TextLine-Schema in List-Schema
Hello,
i've tried out diffenrent parts of z3c.formdemo, but there is noch schema.List
from schema.Textline
example in the demo.
when omitting the osList-attribute by:
> 109 fields = field.Fields(IHost).omit(*HostDetails.omit_editfields)
> [see
> http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/browser/host.py
> ]
> with HostDetails.omit_editfields = ['osList']
z3c.form work great, so accordingly the request must be ok, right?
form registration is in line 44 of
http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/browser/configure.zcml
you can see my IFormLayer in
http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/skin/interfaces.py line 27
the widget from z3c.form are "too sharp for me". I think, there is my problem.
Thanx so far
Markus
Am Montag 03 September 2007 um 10:39 Uhr schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>:
> Am Sonntag, 2. September 2007 18:26 schrieb Markus Leist:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > z3c.form has a very generic, well approach - but at the moment it's to
> > complicated to me.
> >
> > I have an interface defined like:
> >
> > 100 osList = List (
> > 101 title = _("operating systems"),
> > 103 value_type = TextLine(
> > 105 title = _("Operatingsystem"),
> > 107 default = u"",
> > 108 required = False),
> > 109 required = False)
> > [originally from
> > http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/interfaces.
> >py ]
> >
> > when z3c.form will do his update, i'll get a
> >
> > ComponentLookupError: (
> > (,
> >,
> > > URL=http://localhost:8081/cc071bd954f8fd7b3fccf9fab2b1c7b58/add_host.html>)
> >, , u'')
> > [full trace on http://paste.lisp.org/display/47105 ]
>
> I think I know that one: Your request object hast to be marked with the
> appropriate interface, in this case it's IFormLayer.
>
> I recommend you to have a decent look at z3c.formdemo.
>
> To sum my z3c.form-experience up: In the beginning it's quite hard and
> complicated, although the documentation is good. One has to deeply understand
> the component-based software design (Interfaces, Adapters etc.) and other
> packages (e.g. pagelets). However it pays off later on, because other
> alternatives (e.g. formlib) are too limiting for many use cases.
>
> Best Regards,
> Hermann
>
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Re: [Zope3-Users] z3c.form / TextLine-Schema in List-Schema
Hi some addition to my mail: this is an object-instance from http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/net/interfaces.py : http://demo1.ict-ok.org/243cc85c808da990a939a4ae361c67a12/edit.html all works great this is an object-instance from http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/interfaces.py : http://demo1.ict-ok.org/243cc85c808da990a939a4ae361c67a12/c1c0f0290ac1034b761044ea233dbf9f7/edit.html with the error: > ComponentLookupError: ((, > 0x958d96c>, URL=http://demo1.ict-ok.org/243cc85c808da990a939a4ae361c67a > 12/c1c0f0290ac1034b761044ea233dbf9f7/edit.html>), z3c.form.interfaces.IFieldWidget>, u'') the error (with stacktrace) will be renderd in the web-page, too. We can try out any idea on the test-site above: http://demo1.ict-ok.org login is: 'zope3', password 'zope3' (valid on 2007-09-03) Markus ps. yes, z3c.form is great, but also complicated .. Am Montag 03 September 2007 um 11:33 Uhr schrieb Markus Leist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > i've tried out diffenrent parts of z3c.formdemo, but there is noch > schema.List from schema.Textline > example in the demo. > > when omitting the osList-attribute by: > > 109 fields = > > field.Fields(IHost).omit(*HostDetails.omit_editfields) > > [see > > http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/browser/host.py > > ] > > with HostDetails.omit_editfields = ['osList'] > z3c.form work great, so accordingly the request must be ok, right? > > form registration is in line 44 of > http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/browser/configure.zcml > > you can see my IFormLayer in > http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/skin/interfaces.py line 27 > > the widget from z3c.form are "too sharp for me". I think, there is my problem. > > Thanx so far > > Markus > ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] most useful zope 3 libraries
Hi, here the following modules/components are used (from my site.zcml): --- [...] [...] --- this would be "my vote" ... Markus Am Dienstag 04 September 2007 um 04:43 Uhr schrieb "Carlos de la Guardia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > the other day I commented on my blog [1] about the lack of information on > the Zope3 wiki about popular/important libraries or modules (I wanted to say > products but I hear that's passé). Since I brought this up, I though the > least I could do was to create a page about this myself, but I need help, > because I'm just a Zope 3 beginner. > > Could some of you please mention your favorite or most useful libraries for > Zope 3? I will research some of those mentioned and create a wiki page based > on this information. > > Thanks a lot. > > Carlos de la Guardia > > [1] > http://blog.delaguardia.com.mx/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=77&blogId=1 > ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] asynchronous events in Zope3 (was: crossbar switch for event)
Hi all, so let's be more concrete: here is a first temporary freehand sketch of the 'event crossbar switch': http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/documentation/temporary/20070917_queue01.pdf even more concrete for Obj1 and Obj3: Obj1 should be an UPS. the signal shoul be 'battery empty/shutdown now' Obj3 should be a server. The user can configure an additional short connect between Obj1 and Obj4. This will shutdown Obj4 (e.g. another server) on next 'battery emplty'-event, too. I'm working on this within the next few days - anybody additional ideas or 'wishes'? Markus ps. e.g. an early definition of Obj1 will be: http://trac.ict-ok.org/browser/trunk/org/ict_ok/components/host/special/mge_ups/interfaces.py Am Dienstag 19 Juni 2007 um 23:30 Uhr schrieb Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Monday 18 June 2007 18:30, Markus Leist wrote: > > When the registration of an event between the objects and > > the utility is bidirectional, this utility is some kind of > > "event crossbar switch" like > > > > obj 1 <-> <-> 0 > > obj 2 0 0 <-> > > obj 3 0 <-> 0 > > obj a obj b obj c > > > > which _dynamically_ can be configured through the web. > > (some other aspects are routing, metric/priority, detection > > of event cycle ...) > > > > Is there some piece of code? Any ideas? > > I really have no idea what you are talking about. You have not defined obj 1, > obj 2, obj 3. Also, what does "<->" mean? > > I think a very concrete example would be best. ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: AW: [Zope3-Users] z3c.form: ListWidget, ObjectWidget, and subform
+1 Markus Am Samstag 08 Dezember 2007 um 04:53 Uhr schrieb "Roger Ineichen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Stephan, Christophe > > > Betreff: Re: [Zope3-Users] z3c.form: ListWidget, > > ObjectWidget, and subform > > [...] > > > I think as the popularity of z3c.form increases, it would be > > very interesting to have a z3c.form sprint. Does someone want > > to volunteer organizing one? > > Yes, why not, I can organize one arround eastern next year in switzerland. > > Regards > Roger Ineichen > > ___ > Zope3-users mailing list > Zope3-users@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users > ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
