Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: selling zope to a CTO
I think the sell is going to be hard if the CTO wants to conform to a world dominated by J2EE and .NEt projects. One chooses Zope 3 because they are more concerned about productivity, quality, and scalability. There are trend followers and trend setters and I believe Zope is going to be a part of the future. Zope 3 is the best technology I've seen since Linux. At the same time, that there are not any presentations sort of speaks for itself. From my experience, the Zope community is more interested in building quality technology than selling it. Sun and Microsoft push their technologies because they make money. Keep in mind that neither Sun, Microsoft, or Oracle use J2EE for their core applications. That should speak volumes. The only compelling information I've seen revolves around Python being roughly 5 times faster to develop in than Java, from an ROI perspective. We recently bought Microsoft .NET CRM solution only to can it in favor a Zope solution. It was quicker to create our own CRM from scatch then to install the Microsoft product, and our product is more robust. I would be interested in anything you come up with our see, and I would be glad to offer more on our experiences. -- David On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Roy Mathew wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: |Christophe Combelles wrote: | Roy Mathew a écrit : | Hi all, | | Does anyone know of a canned presentation or slides/papers that would | help convince an openminded CTO/CIO that Zope (z3) makes business | sense in a world dominated by huge J2EE and .NET projects. | | | yes :) but I guess everybody knows it | http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov | |That's about Zope 2/Plone (which still makes it a great presentation, |but I don't think it's what Roy's looking for) Indeed, I like that presentation very much, and it helped convince our technology managers that Zope made sense; however, it is too technically focused - I was hoping for a 15-20 minute sort of thing with some punch, for the higher level execs. -- Thanks, Roy Mathew.___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: selling zope to a CTO
Christophe Combelles wrote: Roy Mathew a écrit : Hi all, Does anyone know of a canned presentation or slides/papers that would help convince an openminded CTO/CIO that Zope (z3) makes business sense in a world dominated by huge J2EE and .NET projects. yes :) but I guess everybody knows it http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov That's about Zope 2/Plone (which still makes it a great presentation, but I don't think it's what Roy's looking for) -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training 2nd edition of Web Component Development with Zope 3 is now shipping! ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: selling zope to a CTO
On 1/11/07, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christophe Combelles wrote: Roy Mathew a écrit : Hi all, Does anyone know of a canned presentation or slides/papers that would help convince an openminded CTO/CIO that Zope (z3) makes business sense in a world dominated by huge J2EE and .NET projects. Good reference projects, with news coverage. Googling often won't help, because the intersting reference tend to look non technical http://www.computerwoche.de/nachrichten/575790/ contains no zope for example but is a zope based product in an eads sub division. www.zope.de contains references, www.zope.org too. Btw. to everybody, how do I add reference sites to zope.org, there is no content type for it. Best regards, Patrick ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: selling zope to a CTO
On 1/11/07, Michael Haubenwallner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Gerken wrote: Btw. to everybody, how do I add reference sites to zope.org, there is no content type for it. It is described in http://www.zope.org/Help (Member FAQ), The always undervalued ability of reading... Thank you Michael! http://www.zope.org/Members/do3cc/tsxx_link ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] Re: selling zope to a CTO
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: |Christophe Combelles wrote: | Roy Mathew a écrit : | Hi all, | | Does anyone know of a canned presentation or slides/papers that would | help convince an openminded CTO/CIO that Zope (z3) makes business | sense in a world dominated by huge J2EE and .NET projects. | | | yes :) but I guess everybody knows it | http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov | |That's about Zope 2/Plone (which still makes it a great presentation, |but I don't think it's what Roy's looking for) Indeed, I like that presentation very much, and it helped convince our technology managers that Zope made sense; however, it is too technically focused - I was hoping for a 15-20 minute sort of thing with some punch, for the higher level execs. -- Thanks, Roy Mathew.___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
