Oh boy... I'm running for cover on this one, gonna have to inform my isp that I might be receiving a hell of alot of email in the next few days...
Out, Patrick. -----Original Message----- From: a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 May 2003 1:23 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit > for techno to reach a wider audience in the US and beyond we need Why must techno reach a wider audience? On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 02:29 Atlantic/Reykjavik, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > Someone actually wrote to me offlist, saying it's unethical to post > about a > non-techno Detroit artist, and I take that point, and felt momentarily > chastised, but, then again, I feel that in order > for techno to reach a wider audience in the US and beyond we need to > see it > as part of a wider music culture, not isolate it entirely. > It's interesting > that, like Motown's HQ, Madonna felt compelled to leave Detroit - > though, to > be fair, she was determined to be a dancer not singer - > whereas the next generation of techno acts (mostly) stayed and now > Eminem is > staying. > That represents a turnaround. Maybe it's generational? Maybe there is a > sense of 'reclaiming' or 'reasserting' Detroit. > I often wonder if Veronica Electronica, as she once dubbed herself, > knows > that the > 'electronica' she has been recording has antecedents in Detroit. She > has > discussed 'techno' in an interview published in Mixmag a few years ago > - in > general terms. > Some industry people are now saying that Detroit is the next music > hotspot > like 'Hotatlanta' was in the 90s. I wonder if there is a sense of this > in > Detroit? What implications does it have for the electronic scene? > I admit I am a fan of Madonna's. I think any female who grew up in the > 80s > would see her as more than a pop artist. I don't think I would have > done > what I've done in life without that kind of role model as a kid. Joan > Mitchell has accused her of ushering in the manufactured pop star, and > she > hrself is now retiring because of the malaise in pop, but I feel > Madonna was > more sophisticated. Madonna has wrtten some very brilliant pop. I rate > Ray > Of Light, the last albums were uneven, though. > Incidentally I hear there is an Octave One remix of the new Massive > Attack > single. Anyone know anything more? > >> Heh, well when was the last time Madonna was IN the Detroit area, and >> what >> the hell has she ever done for Detroit? >> >> She moved to New York before a lot of 313 subscribers were born... >> She's my age for gawdsakes (45) though I'll give it up to her for >> being >> in better shape than me. >> >> Musically my opinion of Madonna is that she sang on a couple of decent >> Jellybean tracks and did OK, but the rest of her stuff is pretty >> average >> pop music. Voicewise, she has about a 7-half step range, and her >> delivery >> rarely rises above a jr high glee club level of artistry. >> >> If you want a laugh sometime look at the sheet music for 'Music' -- I >> like >> the guitar tab, where the verse is G Major, and the Chorus is G >> Minor. I >> bet George Gershwin would be jealous... >> >> On Sun, 4 May 2003, The REAL Mxyzptlk wrote: >>> Rochester...Northern (slightly east) suburb. >>> >> >