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Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: (313) UR v. Wayne Gardiner


> do you mean 'final frontier/the warning'? some of the finest new york deep
> house.
> haven't noticed the similarity. do the wayne gardiner releases use
samples?
> i can never tell.
> every time i buy another salsoul repress i discover the source of a box
> full of house records.
>
> btw final frontier is in a mix at my site

Sorry. Meant to follow-up on this earlier but couldn't face the computer for
long last night following the lingering effects of the OC/Digital Soul party
(which was fantastic by the way). People should book Dan Curtin more. He
said he's only played Detroit once, which floored me. I s'pose the midwest's
loss is our (temporary) gain.

Anyway... the track I was on about (that sounds like Millenium to Millenium)
is probably "Blues For You" off this: http://www.discogs.com/release/22685.
Can't say for certain since I only have a comp CD, but Jonny said that is
likely it. It may have been a sample - hard to tell as you say. I should
clarify I don't think UR sampled it, as the chord stabs are comprised of
quite a few notes, and with Millenium to Millenium's extra chord change I
think they likely gained (a lot of) inspiration from it and re-played it
simlirarly. Or maybe I'm overstating the similarity... Would be nice to know
if others think it sounds the same if they can line 'em up next to each
other. I've been lining up the CD at the same time as an RA sample of M II M
across different rooms, so I can't put them in the mix together or hear it
with that much fidelity.

Alex, you should definitely check these releases above (I'd be really
surprised if you didn't like them) and some of his newer stuff on Spiritual
Life and Natural Resource. I think of him as the Larry Heard of the east
coast. Here's some of my other fav's:

-His remix of Oda Oya on http://www.discogs.com/release/37819 or
http://www.discogs.com/release/44433

-Dan Curtin's remix of this: http://www.discogs.com/release/4254 (the rest
is pretty good but not great)

-His Natural Resource record: http://www.discogs.com/release/59777
(seriously deep. You can check one of the tracks in my mixon Emotion
Electric)

Re: Joe Louis/Lewis there's quite a bit to chose from, and quite a range,
from older Chicago jack and acid (of which I know very little - Placid and
James would be much better resources), some mid-'90s Relief stuff that goes
from what you'd expect to very deep Detroit house/techno on the last
release, and that Netherlands EP on Elypsia which was totally unexpected for
me. Ultra-lush techno and electro. I guess some of this variety can be
explained by the whole Jamie v. Joe thing, of which I also have heard very
little until recently.

Tristan
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