Yes matt is making a lot of sense here.

I cant get my words together at this time....CBS is my life and its gone-
just like that. I just nnnnneed a replacement badly!! Can anyone suggest
anything worth listening to streamingwise?

Something on the electro or italio tip? Or maybe even detroit techno tip
(god forbid).  Not house please, im all housed out.

Quest

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2004 3:28 PM
To: 313
Cc: J. T.
Subject: Re: (313) Cybernetic Broadcast System... one crackhead's Eulogy


On Feb 16, 2004, at 9:41 PM, J. T. wrote:
> last time? which? that italo is too hyped? i dunno. guess i wasnt
> paying attention..too much dutch music politics to keep up with..
> dr nutcracker should really sort it out for us...i heard things, like
> he is moving to berlin (or was it rome) but yeah...i dont really
> remember what i heard..but it sounded like he was serious about no
> more dj'ing. maybe he will get back in the studio and make some more
> angry music like superman, which i would welcome very much...

yah JT..  that Superman track was nutzo!   you gotta think, plus,
keeping up a site like that up with a production schedule, equipment,
constant squabbles/upgrades/fees and tweaks with your servers, hosting
providers, other people you have to depend on to keep it up and humming
properly.. it's exhausting.  and expensive!    Storage may be getting
cheaper but bandwidth alway$ get$ ya end the end, yeeowch.   When you
have a site that gets nailed as much as CBS did, (OK, for a relatively
small outfit such as those guys ran), you can bet there servers were
getting a decent amount of of downloads and streams, all that fun
stuff.   So I'm thankful CBS lasted as long as it did, and maybe it
will be revived someday.  If not, maybe people can fan those awesome
mixes out through the usual underground channels  :)   I-f has always
had a flair for the dramatic, (esp. with announcements, public diss of
Hell, etc.) but in true form he's still a major force in shaping
underground dance music in his own dark wayl... and we're lucky to have
him around in any capacity, IMHO.   I have learned so so so much from
Cybernetic Broadcast Systems and even before that the mixes he'd post
from old crazy Intergalactic Gary tape edit mixes and italo fetishist
stuff.

and about italo being dead, or overblown, what!?  pah!!    If it ain't
dead yet after 20+ years of weirdo collectors scouring it all.. it's
not going to just up and die anytime soon..  I'd say by comparison,
'glitch' is rapidly approaching the terminally ill/boring stage, but
that's just me   :P

If Italo (or whatever electro/disco variant you want to call it) gets
more popular, it's just going to make the old school headz like Ferenc
stronger and more of a Don in the end.  And even if it blows up more,
he'll keep burrowing deeper underground and cold-press some hard clear
musical gemstones under all that pressure, while the rest of us
Cocadisco the rest of the HOTT nights away..

I was just reading this article about Chip E who said italo was what
the house guys were trying to copy/sample in early chicago jackin trax
stuff, it was as much a blueprint to some of those guys as disco
percussion was.   So it's not like influences that important ever just
evaporate or suddenly become uncool.   People just stop making high
profile CD compilations of it  ;)    It disappears into the mist of
history.    It appears as a backbeat, buried deep inside of a Purpose
Maker track  ("I Remember").  Shari Vari was a reply/answer to Kano's
Holly Dolly!    It all comes full circle, it's a snake eating it's tail
and then puking up something better.

In the big picture, Italo is a tiny tiny part of electronic dance music
that most people who say they like Techno or House aren't even that
familiar with.. so there's still lots of room for it's influences to
keep sprouting new stuff.   Ferenc is in many ways the flashpoint for a
lot of that exposure, or at least championing it mightily in his own
tracks and DJ sets.   Speaking of new italo, some of those new Pigna
records coming out of Italy are hot!!  The Francisco tracks, and the
Raiders of The Lost Arp tracks especially,, warm electronic dance
techno, chugging analog basslines, top beats and beautiful electro
melodies, count me in..  also you could argue the $tinkworx and Macho
Cat Garage / Legowelt and etc. etc. are all connected in some way to
that era...   it's definitely living on.

have i made utterly no sense yet??   Anyway, respect to I-f!  whatever
his reasons i think it's silly to just publicly speculate on what
*might* have been his reasons.. hell it's his prerogative and I'm sure
we've not seen the last of that madman... that you can bet on for sure.

like william devaughn said:  Be thankful for what you got!

--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com

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