hear hear - too much pro tools, over-production, or over-mastering.
 That's why I keep buying Detroit, cause the producers remember to keep the
 grime in there. I heard stories about people asking Ron Murphy to blend in
 tape noise from a seperate channel so it can ''sound like Jeff Mills'' -
how
lame is that?


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Cyclone Wehner"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: (313) Suburban Knight
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> Gotta agree with you both - it's getting hard to find new releases that
> don't sound super slick - techno, house, what have you. Especially
anything
> tagged tech-house. Blech. I like to hear some intrinsic errors in the
music
> - it makes it sound like someone is actually behind the work. There are
> countless tunes out there that sound so "professional" yet they lack any
> sense of a heartbeat. Take just about anything off the Wiggle label, for
> example. Everything is too clean and smooth - they compensate with a
"phat"
> bassline but the real funk is missing. Give me some ruff cut samples ala
> Todd Edwards/Todd Terry any old day.
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>
>                       James Bucknell
>                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]        To:       Cyclone Wehner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
>                       com.au>                  cc:
>                                                Subject:  Re: (313)
Suburban
> Knight
>                       02/03/03 11:20 PM
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>
> i've always loved house and techno for their minimalism--a few bits of
> roland equipment and a four track reel to reel.
>
>
> i find most contemporary tracks to be as overproduced as any bit of prog.
> house/trance. it's a challenge to spend any money when i go record
> shopping.
>
> instead, i've taken to re-editing older tracks and saving my money for
> final
> scratch.
> james
>
>
> >
> >> Wibo Lammert:
> >>> As to the Mastering: Those first 2 transmats of his sounds like sh*t.
> That
> >>> Dark Energy doublepack sounds a whole lot better.
> >>
> >> Gotta disagree wth u for the first time old bean (let's not make a
habit
> of
> >> this ;-) - My opinion is that 'Art of Stalking' along with many other
> >> seminal Detroit techno (which implies a particular period) benefitted,
> >> purposefully or not, from the ironic lack of the latest technology at
> all
> >> points of the production process. Those trax sound grimy, glitchy,
> scratchy
> >> and minimal, sometimes even the sequencing is a bit suspect. But
somehow
> (I
> >> admit, I'm not sure how) often, all those elements came together to
form
> an
> >> unmistable kind of human touch which proved there really was a ghost in
> the
> >> machine (called soul.)
> >> k
> >
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