Re: "Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
John, > On Sep 11, 2020, at 5:27 PM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > >> On Sep 11, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> >> I have a client with about a dozen users and a 230GB data file. They >> upgraded their server and

Re: "Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
One big benefit of running Windows is that you continue to run 32bit apps, seemingly forever. I don’t know whether Microsoft has a sunset plan for 32bit, but it’s been very nice to not be forced into 64bit, given the massive dev/test effort required to bring 4D apps into the 64bit client future.

Re: "Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
> On Sep 11, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I have a client with about a dozen users and a 230GB data file. They > upgraded their server and we got a top of the line Mac Mini. Since we expect > to use it for a number of years, we got the best

Re: "Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
David, I invite you to check out the new 4D forum at https://discuss.4d.com/ It's a huge improvement over the old forum and this list. Plus a lot more people are active there. But to your point Tom and Randy are both giving you solid advice. I will add that my experience with 4D server is the one

Re: "Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
Hi David, I think the answer really depends on number of things: - How much growth you expect, in terms of concurrent users/processes and data file size, over the next 3-5 years. - How is your application expected to change over then next 3 - 5 years. - What kind of IT support you have. - Wh

Re: "Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
Are you having any performance issues now? My 2¢, with that datafile size, I'd just get more of the same (current MacMini), with 16GB RAM. Unless your in-house expertise is more comfortable with Windows. > On Sep 11, 2020, at 1:08 PM, David Loeppky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote:

Re: "Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
David, I have a client with about a dozen users and a 230GB data file. They upgraded their server and we got a top of the line Mac Mini. Since we expect to use it for a number of years, we got the best processor and maxed out the memory. You can never have too much memory. We also got the S

"Optimal" 4D Server hardware

2020-09-11 Thread David Loeppky via 4D_Tech
I'm ready to upgrade our 4D server machine and would welcome any insights and recommendations. Some details: - 40 Users (Mac and Windows) - 4GB data file - 120 tables - The current server is a 2011 Mac Mini with 8GB and raid 4XSSD HD Questions about the new server: - Windows or Mac? - Recommended

Parallels RAS on Amazon AWS

2020-09-11 Thread David Rose via 4D_Tech
My organization is considering migrating our 4D v17.5 client/server application, currently running in an all-Windows 10 environment, to an Amazon EC2 instance, with Parallels RAS providing virtual machines for 4D client access. Are any of you doing this or something similar? Here is an article