Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Weale
If you need significant 4D Client (not web serving) involvement with 4D Server or if the need of the web server for 4D data and functionality is non-trivial, I would forget the cloud as an option. Only solution in that direction I could think of would be to put 4D Server and 4D Client/webserver

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-18 Thread Arnaud de Montard
> Le 18 nov. 2016 à 11:18, Paul Dennis a écrit : > > I'm trying to decide where to host the 4Dserver application. The options are > [...] Another option: we use 4D server and client-as-web-server both in-house, with the client in a DMZ. Connection to wan is fiber. It is enough for us, the web

RE: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-18 Thread Paul Dennis
Hello Scott, Bill, Tim I'm trying to decide where to host the 4Dserver application. The options are 1. 4D server inhouse and 4D Client web serving in cloud on a dedicated server. The limitation here is the speed of our connection as this is a consumer site and could be busy. 2. 4D server and 4D C

RE: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-14 Thread Paul Dennis
Thanks Tim, That was the missing.. link. Paul -- View this message in context: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/web-serving-from-4D-client-tp5748533p5748628.html Sent from the 4D Tech mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ** 4D In

RE: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-11 Thread Timothy Penner
Reminder: A 4DLINK file can be used to login 4D Client to a 4D Server, and you can specify a hashed password inside of the 4D Link file. More information can be found here: http://livedoc.4d.com/4Dv16/help/Title/en/page3252.html#68648 http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76769 http://kb.4d.com/assetid=50815

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-11 Thread Bill Weale
The machine selected to run the web server, the 4D User assigned to that machine (with or without a password), the HTML root file and anything else you wish to do to configure and authorize the WEB START SERVER call can be managed in 4D records and forms. And, obviously, they can be as “secure"

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-11 Thread cswirth
Paul Dennis wrote > Scott, I am about to implement serving via client. In your setup having a > "web user" does this mean you have to login manually when you restart the > client ? > Thanks > Paul Paul, We do log in manually after a restart, but I suppose you could make your web user the default

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-10 Thread Bill Weale
I can say that, as far as a version 14 built c/s system, a web serving 4D client can be set to auto launch while also starting the webserver. As Scott pointed out it’s important that the user assigned to the web server client be assigned to a group with web server privileges and (I’m quite sure)

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-10 Thread Bill Weale
Hi Scott— It’s been a while, but I recall that there can be quirkiness involving the persistence, or not, of some of the settings in the configuration ui. I’ve worked around that by keeping them in db preferences records which can be modified by designer/administrator/user as appropriate. On st

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-10 Thread Paul Dennis
Scott, I am about to implement serving via client. In your setup having a "web user" does this mean you have to login manually when you restart the client ? Thanks Paul -- View this message in context: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/web-serving-from-4D-client-tp5748533p5748578.html Sent from t

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-09 Thread cswirth
Bill, "Since the system is a built c/s project and we do auto updates quite often" It's my experience in v15 that you need to reset the Default HTML root after an update. Scott -- View this message in context: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/web-serving-from-4D-client-tp5748533p5748574.html

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-09 Thread Bill Weale
Thanks, Scott and Tim-- I had completely overlooked this. Since the system is a built c/s project and we do auto updates quite often I've been keyed mainly to coding the configuration. But I need to do some ad hoc testing in the production environment... Bill > On Nov 9, 2016, at 12:49 PM, cs

Re: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-09 Thread cswirth
Bill, We have been running the web server from 4D Remote for years and, no, you don't need to configure via code. I have a dialog on the web serving 4D remote with a button that calls OPEN SETTINGS WINDOW("/Web") which opens the preference window. Since upgrading from v12 to v15 I get an alert "To

RE: web serving from 4D client

2016-11-09 Thread Timothy Penner
Hi Bill, You could use code on the Client, or you could just open the database settings dialog and go to the Web tab from the client machine (not the server). In Client-Server mode the Web Server settings dialog will show "Web (Client)" on the client machine indicating it is a different configu