RE: Finally v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-09-28 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
> link? Here you go: http://doc.4d.com I like red arrows: https://i.imgur.com/8pms9rd.png -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

Re: Finally v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-09-28 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
link? > Thank you 4D > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >

Finally v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-09-27 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Thank you 4D ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-08-18 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Well, there are still no PDF-Manuals. 4D are you listening? > On 27 Jul 2018, at 11:15 AEST, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > When can we expect the PDF-version of the manuals for v17? > > HTML-only is not exactable! >

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-08-10 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
Thanks Wayne! ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-08-10 Thread Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech
Sorry that may not have translated: This is what you need: ftp://livedoc.4d.com/DOC_4Dv17_fr_en_de_es_fe_ja_pt.zip html docs Regards, Wayne Regards, Wayne On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 12:43, Wayne Stewart wrote: > > DOC_4Dv17_fr_en_de_es_fe_ja_pt.zip > > Regards, > > Wayne > > > > > On

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-08-10 Thread Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech
DOC_4Dv17_fr_en_de_es_fe_ja_pt.zip Regards, Wayne On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 12:31, David Adams via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I was just at the 4D site looking for PDF manualsand didn't find them. > So I searched here

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-08-10 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
I was just at the 4D site looking for PDF manualsand didn't find them. So I searched here and found this thread. I'm going to be away from the Internet and want to take documentation with me. I expect that I'll have some down time, and figured it might be a nice time to look at recoding some

RE: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-08-10 Thread Steve Makohin via 4D_Tech
For fans of PDF user manuals, and having to wade through large documents (like the 4D Language Guide), I've enjoyed using (free) PDF-XChange Editor (https://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor). Their PDF reader is free, and it's super-fast. The first search you do build

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-30 Thread Jeremy French via 4D_Tech
I’d like to see 4D PDF Documentation in the format used for v11’s Upgrade manual. Here’s a link to: 4D v11 SQL Upgrade http://download.4d.com/Documents/Products_Documentation/LastVersions/Line_11/VIntl/PDF_Format/4D_v11_Upgrade.pdf I suggest looking at the PDF in a PDF reader — **not** a web

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-30 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I like having the PDF manuals. I do not often use them, but when I need them they are indispensable For v2003 -> v15 I have been using Help viewer (mac) to present the html docs. What I find with this approach is that the internal links are fine, and top level index (table of contents) are

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-30 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
Thanks for the offer Jorg, I have been working with acrobat since v1 so know it well. Even managed to get product as a case study on the adobe V4 install cd ! Its so easy to do thats why I cant understand why 4D havent resolved this. I also agree about the blog. Its useful but it has fragmented

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-29 Thread Bob Miller via 4D_Tech
Re> I demand PDF manuals! Ditto. Laurent promised we could have PDF manuals at the Atlanta summit. He could not see why their production was a problem. That hasn’t happened. I’ve held out or skipped deploying several versions until PDF documentation was available, and I’m doing the same for

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
Perhaps a useful addition to the HTML docs would be a comprehensive index that can be quickly searched. Yes, you can search the entire docs, but it can take quite a while. If all the text was already indexed that would be much more useful. On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 12:49, UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech
The original very large box of paper manuals with my first version of 4D (likely v3), having moved up first from Filemaker and then 4D light/first? was the way I got to grips with 4D. The quality of the documentation for new adopters and so the continuation of the platform should not be

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 28 Jul 2018, at 20:15 AEST, Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > In the new version you cannot do this there is > no list of commands in the current pdf docs. Every time 4D managed to provide a PDF-manual I open it up in Acrobat (Not the reader!!) and index it by

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
My bias towards pdf is possibly because I'm not the primary coder of our product. Therefore quite often if I am writing code I need to check the documentation and read the information to make sure understood it correctly. For example if I was looking to use the command distinct values. In the V

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 28 Jul 2018, at 09:39 AEST, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Sorry that I comment on your thread. I didn’t see the Jorg only sign. You’re forgiven! ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG)

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-27 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
Sorry that I comment on your thread. I didn’t see the Jorg only sign. > On Jul 27, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Jody, > >> On 27 Jul 2018, at 23:32 AEST, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >> > wrote: >>

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-27 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Jody, > On 27 Jul 2018, at 23:32 AEST, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > wrote: > > I am good with the HTML pages. Good for you. Everyone is different! I demand PDF-manuals! HTML is a fu piece of sh** local and online. Regards Jörg Knebel,

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-27 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
I couldn't agree more the html files are rubbish, poor navigation page refresh etc etc. A return to the V11 style formatting and fonts would also help. I wish designers would understand it its all about ease of use and readability. Paul -- Sent from:

v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-26 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Hi, When can we expect the PDF-version of the manuals for v17? HTML-only is not exactable! Thanks Regards Jörg Knebel, M.Eng. - 4D Developer since 1991 TTT Data Systems Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (0)2 6601 7453 www.tttdatasystems.com.au