Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-13 Thread Tengfei Chang
r more. But with the token / seqnum we are open if one day we decide >> otherwise… >> >> >> >> Take care, >> >> >> >> Pascal >> >> >> >> *From:* Qin Wang [mailto:qinwang6...@yahoo.com] >> *Sent:* mercredi 9 mars 2016

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-11 Thread Prof. Diego Dujovne
> *From:* Qin Wang [mailto:qinwang6...@yahoo.com] > *Sent:* mercredi 9 mars 2016 16:48 > *To:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > *Cc:* Tero Kivinen ; 6tisch@ietf.org; Prof. Diego Dujovne > ; Tengfei Chang > *Subject:* Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions > in 6P

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-09 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P Pascal, I can see your point. Token is useful for Parent to distinguish Retry from new Request by the Child. But, I have a stupid question: is it reasonable to allow the Child to ask more cells before it gets Response to what it already

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-09 Thread Qin Wang
ee on the bottom line and on your points. Cheers, Pascal > -Original Message- > From: Tero Kivinen [mailto:kivi...@iki.fi] > Sent: mardi 8 mars 2016 15:50 > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > Cc: Tengfei Chang ;6tisch@ietf.org; Prof. Diego > Dujovne > Subject: RE

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-08 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
ub...@cisco.com>> > Cc: Tengfei Chang mailto:tengfei.ch...@gmail.com>>; > 6tisch@ietf.org<mailto:6tisch@ietf.org>; Prof. Diego > Dujovne mailto:diego.dujo...@mail.udp.cl>> > Subject: RE: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P > > Pascal Th

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-08 Thread Qin Wang
lto:kivi...@iki.fi] > Sent: mardi 8 mars 2016 15:50 > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > Cc: Tengfei Chang ; 6tisch@ietf.org; Prof. Diego > Dujovne > Subject: RE: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P > > Pascal Thubert (pthubert) writes: > > But

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-08 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
vne > Subject: RE: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P > > Pascal Thubert (pthubert) writes: > > But this is another discussion entirely. It is about the transaction > > that associates new timeslots to a bundle and why we need a > > correlator

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-08 Thread Tero Kivinen
Pascal Thubert (pthubert) writes: > But this is another discussion entirely. It is about the transaction > that associates new timeslots to a bundle and why we need a > correlator, or transaction ID. I was explaining that if the parent > wait for the ack to allocate a slot that was negotiated, and

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-08 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
. Cheers, Pascal > -Original Message- > From: Tero Kivinen [mailto:kivi...@iki.fi] > Sent: lundi 7 mars 2016 14:24 > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > Cc: Tengfei Chang ; 6tisch@ietf.org; Prof. Diego > Dujovne > Subject: Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identi

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-07 Thread Tero Kivinen
Pascal Thubert (pthubert) writes: > But if the ack is sent and not received then the parent does not > allocate the cells and the child uses them... And ACK only tells you that the frame was received, it does NOT mean that the frame was processed. I.e. the recipient end might send an ACK, and then

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-04 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
org<mailto:6tisch-boun...@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Tengfei Chang Sent: jeudi 3 mars 2016 18:48 To: Prof. Diego Dujovne mailto:diego.dujo...@mail.udp.cl>> Cc: 6tisch@ietf.org<mailto:6tisch@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P Hel

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-04 Thread Tengfei Chang
; *Sent:* jeudi 3 mars 2016 18:48 > *To:* Prof. Diego Dujovne > *Cc:* 6tisch@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions > in 6P > > > > Hello Diego, > > > > For the Token to identify the transaction, personally, if * the idea is

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-04 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
is retried so as to respond with the same cells. Take care, Pascal From: 6tisch [mailto:6tisch-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tengfei Chang Sent: jeudi 3 mars 2016 18:48 To: Prof. Diego Dujovne Cc: 6tisch@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-04 Thread Tengfei Chang
Hi Xavi, Thanks for explanation! It makes sense for me. Xavi, Diego, All, Does the token indicates the ID of one transaction? How this 8-bits value changes during a transaction/multiple transaction? It would be helpful if there is some martial showing how the token works with 6p. Let me know if

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-03 Thread Xavier Vilajosana
Hi Tengfei, if we want (now or in the future) to support asynchronous responses (such as the piggybacking case or if we want to aggregate confirmations) then the token is handy. If we think that this mechanism will always be synchronous and that concurrency will not be allowed then the state machi

Re: [6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-03 Thread Tengfei Chang
Hello Diego, For the Token to identify the transaction, personally, if *the idea is to identify a request and a response with a token*, it can be replaced by implementing a status machine, in which the status is able to identify the status of 6P transaction. Here is a rough example which is able

[6tisch] 6P and Sf0 issue: Token to identify transactions in 6P

2016-03-03 Thread Prof. Diego Dujovne
Dear all, In order to continue the discussion we left unfinished at the Interim meeting in March 26th, I will open a number of threads to take action on several pending issues for the drafts: draft-wang-6tisch-6top-sublayer-04 (which will be renamed to 6top-protocol) draft-dujovne-6tis