Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-17 Thread Eris Discordia
This explanation isn't immediately comprehensible to me--I guess I'll have to read the man pages and some other documentation and then come back to understand this. Thanks anyway. --On Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:52 PM -0500 erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the same time. I though

Re: [9fans] those funny gnu guys

2008-11-17 Thread thagonzo
> * erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > this is just stupifying: > > > > http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1029797&cid=25761431 > > gcc is a mess, right. But is there an usable alternative ? pcc, http://pcc.ludd.ltu.se/ > > > cu -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bi

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-17 Thread Eris Discordia
It was a pleasure and quite educational to read your posting, Micah Stetson. The Plan 9 kernel doesn't do load balancing like that. (Why should it?) To do it in Plan 9, you'd write a small program that listened on a particular address and multiplexed connections to a list of other addresses.

Re: [9fans] An Observation

2008-11-17 Thread Robert Raschke
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the one hand, "Too many cooks spoil the broth." On the other hand, > "Many hands make light work." Cooks don't work, they give orders.

[9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-17 Thread Siddharth Prakash Singh
Hi all, I want to port some program or driver to Plan9 which is challenging as well as important for Plan9. Please suggest me . Is any JVM ported to Plan9? or Firefox? or any other suggestions Anticipating replies. Regards Siddharth

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread lupin636
Hi All, my /lib/ndb/auth is: hostid=bootes uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* but i just remember that "armando"(user name) is also sys and adm, could it be the problem for "speaks for"? because, as i explained above i have "no speaks for" in /sys/log/auth when i try cpu(1) command from terminal, i

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Eckhardt
> Every sensible NAT solution must be implemented with that in > mind--not that existing ones have been. Even imagining persistent > connections from an entire Class A network makes one shudder. > Needless to say, the wreak of havoc occurs _long_ before over 16 > million hosts need persistent conne

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-17 Thread Rodolfo kix GarcĂ­a
Really, do you read your messages? http://9fans.net/archive/2008/11/35 > Hi all, > > I want to port some program or driver to Plan9 which is challenging as > well as important for Plan9. Please suggest me . > > Is any JVM ported to Plan9? or Firefox? or any other suggestions > > Anticipati

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-17 Thread Roman Zhukov
I suggest you to invent something new instead of porting.

Re: [9fans] broken smtpd

2008-11-17 Thread Kenji Arisawa
Hello, Today, I observed smtpd that was in endless loop and then broken. ar% ps ... none 203920:01 28:27 264K Running smtpd ... ar% ACID 20392 /proc/20392/text:386 plan 9 executable /sys/lib/acid/port /sys/lib/acid/386 acid: lstk() receiver(path=0x41f58)+0x1c5 /sys/src/c

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> my /lib/ndb/auth is: >hostid=bootes >uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* > but i just remember that "armando"(user name) is also sys and adm, > could it be the problem for "speaks for"? > because, as i explained above i have "no speaks for" in /sys/log/auth > when i try cpu(1) command from termin

Re: [9fans] D-Bus ...

2008-11-17 Thread Uriel
D-bus is yet one more example of how the linux community has learned nothing from Plan 9 (or even unix itself). And sadly, together with fuse yet another lost opportunity for 9P which will be likely impossible to undo. Peace uriel On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [9fans] broken smtpd

2008-11-17 Thread erik quanstrom
d'oh! the return value from catchalarm looks reversed. from notify(2) [...] A handler must return a non-zero number if the note was recognized (and resolved); otherwise it must return zero. When the system i think you're getting into some sort of note loop. i t

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-17 Thread ron minnich
it would be nice to take the existing usb code -- which is all user mode code -- and get hot plug working,such that I could pop mice,keyboards, disks, etc in at will and have the right bits all start/stop when such events happen. I think this is a good project as it is self-contained, a good intro

Re: [9fans] broken smtpd

2008-11-17 Thread Kernel Panic
erik quanstrom wrote: d'oh! the return value from catchalarm looks reversed. from notify(2) [...] A handler must return a non-zero number if the note was recognized (and resolved); otherwise it must return zero. When the system i think you're getting into some

Re: [9fans] broken smtpd

2008-11-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> its not a good idea to call syslog() in a note handler, because it > aquires locks > and calls into the memory allocator by strdup() (that too aquires locks). > > if the note interrupts the program while in syslog() or the allocator, > it will deadlock. excellent point. in this case, i think

Re: [9fans] broken smtpd

2008-11-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
if you look at /dev/kmesg you might find many messages about "checked N page table entries". i think smtpd is getting a trap (probably a null pointer) and because the value returned from catchalarm is the wrong way round, it continues to retry using the bad pointer until the alarm goes off (afte

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-17 Thread C H Forsyth
if i were you, i'd start with something simple first, to find my way round the system. it's probably also not a bad idea, as someone else suggested, to write a few small programs for plan 9 itself, just to see the differences. write a silly concurrent program using thread(2), for instance, and pe

Re: [9fans] D-Bus ...

2008-11-17 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > D-bus is yet one more example of how the linux community has learned > nothing from Plan 9 (or even unix itself). And sadly, together with > fuse yet another lost opportunity for 9P which will be likely > impossible to undo. Although I'm a linux guy, that's exa

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-17 Thread Eris Discordia
Are there any NAT solutions which handle millions of hosts? Are we having a discussion about unicorns? No. Which is why "not that existing ones have been." And "wreak of havoc occurs _long_ before" refers to the hypothetical gateway being brought down with far fewer connections, irrespective

Re: [9fans] D-Bus ...

2008-11-17 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > im a linux developer but i hate it... in which apps do you hate it most ? cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 e

[9fans] venti error

2008-11-17 Thread lupin636
Hi All, When i do: % ls /sys/src/cmd i have this error: ls: /sys/src/cmd: venti i/o error block Furthermore, when i do the system update from bell labs, i get the same error. any suggestions, thanks in advance to everybody for responses. Armando.

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread lupin636
Hi Eric, I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. thanks again, Armando. > looking in /mnt/factotum/ctl on the console, you should see > keys like these at a minimum > > terminal: > key proto=p9sk1 dom=quanstro.net user=quanstr

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Nov 17 09:17:49 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Eric, (sic) > I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. > if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. > thanks again, you need to verify the keys also match. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread lupin636
thanks a lot eric.. what do you mean with "match"? > > > Hi Eric, (sic) > > I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. > > if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. > > thanks again, > > you need to verify the keys also match. > > - erik

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Eckhardt
> I believe your are a little late with your remark. The issue > has been resolved. Oops! Hopefully as list moderator you will accept my apologies for having drawn out a discussion beyond its useful time!! Dave Eckhardt

Re: [9fans] An Observation

2008-11-17 Thread Michaelian Ennis
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Robert Raschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On the one hand, "Too many cooks spoil the broth." On the other hand, >> "Many hands make light work." > > Cooks don't work, they give orders.

Re: [9fans] those funny gnu guys

2008-11-17 Thread sqweek
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > >> this is just stupifying: >> >> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1029797&cid=25761431 > > gcc is a mess, right. But is there an usable alternative ? 8c! htt

Re: [9fans] those funny gnu guys

2008-11-17 Thread Anant Narayanan
8c! http://gsoc.cat-v.org/hg/kenc (Anant, did you have another port as part of Glendix, or am I getting mixed up?) Yes, 8c & 8l now work on Glendix. Regards, Anant

Re: [9fans] nat

2008-11-17 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Hello ! Look at 6in4(8) sources, it uses ipmux to get packets. This will be the first step to NAT. P.S.: I'm using hardware NAT (by Cisco) 2008/11/16 erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Obviously, a linux server is going to have a hard time importing /net > > (in a useful way, at least unti