> Thanks, I know that; I was asking where the list comes from since the
> one I remembered to be in the old wiki apparently died with it.
I pulled most of the articles into a new wiki, including the unix29 lists.
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Is that the old list of https://code.9front.org/wiki ?
It's a proper wiki with the new repo located at
http://only9fans.com/garden/wiki.9front.org/HEAD/info.html
Thanks, I know that; I was asking where the list comes from since the
one I remembered to be i
Quoth Humm :
> Quoth Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir:
> >9front wiki has some too, for example: http://wiki.9front.org/unix2plan9
>
> Is that the old list of https://code.9front.org/wiki ?
>
Yes, though probably with some updates (I haven't
been watching the repos)
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Quoth Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir:
9front wiki has some too, for example: http://wiki.9front.org/unix2plan9
Is that the old list of https://code.9front.org/wiki ?
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 01:20:20 +0100
Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> 9front wiki has some too, for example:
> http://wiki.9front.org/unix2plan9
Excellent! Just what I needed to get started with the tinkering.
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and Bob's your uncle.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 6:36 PM wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, at 08:29, Stanley Lieber wrote:
> > On December 28, 2021 10:42:27 PM UTC, Humm
> wrote:
> >>Quoth Duke Normandin:
> >>> I'm new to Pla
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, at 08:29, Stanley Lieber wrote:
> On December 28, 2021 10:42:27 PM UTC, Humm wrote:
>>Quoth Duke Normandin:
>>> I'm new to Plan9. I don't know fuck all! So I gotta start at the
>>> beginning - NOT at sysadmin level. Off to Google ...
>>
>>The beginning is the name. The thing
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On December 28, 2021 10:42:27 PM UTC, Humm wrote:
>Quoth Duke Normandin:
>> I'm new to Plan9. I don't know fuck all! So I gotta start at the
>> beginning - NOT at sysadmin level. Off to Google ...
>
>The beginning is the name. The thing you use is “9front”. The abandoned
>thing is “Plan 9”. No
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 15:16:06 -0800
Bakul Shah wrote:
> You may find
> https://pspodcasting.net/dan/blog/2019/plan9_desktop.html useful.
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On Dec 28, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Duke Normandin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:28:52 -0800
> Eli Cohen wrote:
>
>> if you're not accustomed to plan 9
>
> Worst than that! I don't know squat about it. Just manage to
> install it 10 minutes ago. I know Unix though and that's where I'm
> getting h
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I'm new to Plan9. I don't know fuck all! So I gotta start at the
beginning - NOT at sysadmin level. Off to Google ...
The beginning is the name. The thing you use is “9front”. The
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On 12/28/21, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 21:12:37 +0100
> hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> my point was that if they weren't pedantic they wouldn't be any
>> good
>
> Here's MY point:
>
> https://you
sure, i don't want every website to read like a manual page.
but i want every manual page to be pedantic in the sense that it
should be concise and informative.
your example fits this definition.
On 12/28/21, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 21:12:37 +0100
> hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wr
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 21:12:37 +0100
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> my point was that if they weren't pedantic they wouldn't be any
> good
Here's MY point:
https://youtu.be/SoGLU1l7LwY
Short and sweet and to the point. Gimme more ... :)
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 21:12:37 +0100
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> my point was that if they weren't pedantic they wouldn't be any
> good
There's a time for pedantic and there a time for not so much.
There's way too much "Bullshit baffles brains" going on - on the
web - IMHO.
At the onset, show
my point was that if they weren't pedantic they wouldn't be any good
On 12/28/21, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 20:01:17 +0100
> hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> manuals are always pedantic.
>
> maybe you haven't lived long enough to have stumbled on the good
> ones. :)
> --
> D
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 20:01:17 +0100
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> manuals are always pedantic.
maybe you haven't lived long enough to have stumbled on the good
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vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
[snip]
> 9front and Plan 9 are multi-user/multi-tasking distributed
> operating environments. How 9front and Plan 9 are used today
> differs greatly than how it was originally meant to be deployed.
> An end user was meant to login
Quoth Duke Normandin :
>
> You're kidding right? So it's a single-user/multi-tasking OS?
no, but it's hard for two people to use one
mouse. therefore, when you sit in front of
one machine, you own it.
multiple users come in when you import
resources from the network.
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, at 03:03, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:56:19 -0500
> "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote:
>
>> Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to
>> emphasize just how different Plan 9 is: you "log out" by
>> rebooting.
>
> You're kidding right? So it's a sin
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 10:11:38 -0800
Eli Cohen wrote:
> yes, but it also has very good networking capabilities
networking is good! +1
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No.
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yes, but it also has very good networking capabilities
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 10:05 AM Duke Normandin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:56:19 -0500
> "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote:
>
> > Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to
> > emphasize just how different Plan 9 is: you "log
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:56:19 -0500
"Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote:
> Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to
> emphasize just how different Plan 9 is: you "log out" by
> rebooting.
You're kidding right? So it's a single-user/multi-tasking OS?
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Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to emphasize just
how different Plan 9 is: you "log out" by rebooting.
On 12/28/21 12:35 PM, Duke Normandin wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:28:52 -0800
Eli Cohen wrote:
if you're not accustomed to plan 9
Worst than that! I don't know squa
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:28:52 -0800
Eli Cohen wrote:
> if you're not accustomed to plan 9
Worst than that! I don't know squat about it. Just manage to
install it 10 minutes ago. I know Unix though and that's where I'm
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:23:49 -0500
o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> Quoth Duke Normandin :
> > log in as user:adm
>
> expanding that a bit: log in as a
> user in the 'adm' group.
OK - I'm going to take a time-out and go read about how to use this
thing! I see that I'm trying to make too many analogie
if you're not accustomed to plan 9 I want to be the first to reiterate
to be very careful with the mount command. on plan 9 mount mounts 9p
servers, not disks. mounting a disk file will write 9p to the file
(the disk)
that's a common mistake that people have made tools to recover from,
but it can
Quoth Duke Normandin :
> log in as user:adm
expanding that a bit: log in as a
user in the 'adm' group.
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so check if your user glenda is part of the group that has write
permissions to /adm/timezone/local
On 12/28/21, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:59:26 +0100
> hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> adm? /adm is a folder, i don't see any reference where it's being
>> used as hostowner.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:59:26 +0100
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> adm? /adm is a folder, i don't see any reference where it's being
> used as hostowner...
> maybe you wanted to use "glenda" which is default hostowner.
The docs I'm reading say that to setup the correct timezone:
log in as user:a
adm? /adm is a folder, i don't see any reference where it's being used
as hostowner...
maybe you wanted to use "glenda" which is default hostowner.
On 12/28/21, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:48:11 +0100
> Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
>
>> Just follow the usual installatio
It's glenda, not adm. adm is a group. Please, read the documentation,
there is plenty.
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Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Just follow the usual installation, choose sdC0 as the media.
> 9front has its own bootloader which installs in mbr if you chose
> so. Grub can "chainload" (that's the word to search on the
> internet or docs for) that too i
it's weird, it should have shown
/dev/sdD0/data 9660
On 12/28/21, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> Quoth Duke Normandin :
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:31:26 +0100
>> Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
>>
>> > Awesome. Have fun!
>>
>> I sure will! Thx a bunch. Before you move on to better things, can
Quoth Duke Normandin :
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:31:26 +0100
> Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
>
> > Awesome. Have fun!
>
> I sure will! Thx a bunch. Before you move on to better things, can
> you explain how I get Plan9 onto /dev/sdC0 please.
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html#4.3.5
Just follow the usual installation, choose sdC0 as the media. 9front
has its own bootloader which installs in mbr if you chose so. Grub can
"chainload" (that's the word to search on the internet or docs for)
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Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Awesome. Have fun!
I sure will! Thx a bunch. Before you move on to better things, can
you explain how I get Plan9 onto /dev/sdC0 please.
I've got antiX Linux on /dev/sdC1 which I want to keep. Got GRUB2
bootmanager install
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:01:56 +0100
Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Which ISO did you use?
Hold the phone! Stop the presses!
I'm in! Joy!!
Accepted the defaults once again after doing a Ctrl-D and BOOM!
I've got a term% window
I've got a "cirno" window.
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My concern is that it does not show /dev/sdD0/data as 9660 when
listing possible choices to boot from, unless ofc you didn't
copy-paste(?) the full output precisely. Could be that the ISO wasn't
burned correctly? I'm not exactly sure. The /386/init is definitely
there on the ISO which boots fine fo
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:01:56 +0100
Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Which ISO did you use?
9front-8593.acc504c319a4b4188479cfa602e40cb6851c0528.386.iso
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 16:54:07 +0100
Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> > Not bad!! Got to keep going though! LOL What now? Reading the
> > Plan9 install docs. Is 9front install docs different? TIA
>
> Which one of the cd/dvd has 9front in?
It's in the Yamaha CD drive.
> Can you type "!rc" (
Which ISO did you use?
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hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> not sure what's wrong with that cd drive, but as you have the
> kernel loaded, you could also put the iso on a flash drive or so
> and use that for root.
Isn't "/386/init does not exist" a clue?
Why does it not exist I'm wonderi
> Not bad!! Got to keep going though! LOL What now? Reading the Plan9
> install docs. Is 9front install docs different? TIA
Which one of the cd/dvd has 9front in? Can you type "!rc" (it will
drop you into a shell) and do "ls /dev/sd*/" there? See if there are
any plan 9 partitions. Shell can be ex
not sure what's wrong with that cd drive, but as you have the kernel
loaded, you could also put the iso on a flash drive or so and use that
for root.
On 12/28/21, Duke Normandin wrote:
> @hiro, @Sigrid, @vic
>
> Thanks everybody for the tips! Much obliged.
> DLed Sigrid's original suggestion. No
@hiro, @Sigrid, @vic
Thanks everybody for the tips! Much obliged.
DLed Sigrid's original suggestion. Now - Plan9 boots up to here:
[boot-msg]
/dev/sdC0: ST3802110A
/dev/sdC0/data
/dev/sdC1: Maxtor 6Y080L0
/dev/sdC1/data
/dev/sdC1/linux
/dev/sdC1/linux1
/dev/sdD0: YAMAHA CRW2200E
/dev/sdD0/data
/d
> might work too.
If you consider autopsy of old and unsupported software
full of bugs "fun" and not a complete waste of time, sure.
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Duke wrote:
> Boot process halts almost from the start at message:
>
> Verifying DMI Pool Data
> Boot from CD: PBSR...EI
>
> Then nothing! Keyboard not hung. Press any key and it reboots.
>
> This is on an amd athlon xp 2000+ / 1G RAM / 2nd Master = CD-RW, ATA 33
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