Re: [9fans] Deleting lines in sam - d

I have applied the script and the suggestions are fantastic. For the kind of work I am doing now, having the numbers helps me a lot, although I do also understand the point Christ is making. Many thanks! -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.co

Re: [9fans] Deleting lines in sam - d

Many thanks. I will apply your solutions and revert back. It just seems a little counter intuitive not to be able to show the line numbers as ed does,especially if one is viewing a large body of text.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/

[9fans] Deleting lines in sam - d

In ed one can show line numbers using n. To delete line nubers is thus easy. In sam - d it appears this is not possible. I understand sam is not a line editor. What the would be the best way to delete a range of lines?  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9

[9fans] Re: Making multiple changes to dot using sam -d

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[9fans] Making multiple changes to dot using sam -d

I am running sam -d in a Debian Linux Subsystem on Windows. I am editing a series of documents that require several changes per line(s). I can for instance change: I love working in sam in teh terminal to I love working in sam -d in the terminal using: .x/sam/c/sam -d/ .x/teh/c/the Is it po

[9fans] Sending mail in acme (9front)

I have managed to set up pop in 9front but have had less success with smtp. The error I get is below: https://drive.google.com/file/d/137x3djRXv1EVnsk4_LSRtJrQ23K34kwj/view?usp=sharing I have tried about a dozen things to fix it.  Perhaps someone can guide me? ---

Re: [9fans] Autoexpand in sam

Thank you Silas. You have helped solve the problem. I was trying to access this file after I had exited sam, rather than from within it.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T0e2541a723ce90e5-Mcd8ff4eb0c8fc62cc701245f Delivery

Re: [9fans] Autoexpand in sam

Having spoken of ,>spell I seem now to betting an unusual message. If I run ,>spell on my current file within sam, I get (sam: more in /tmp/sam.err) . Anyone know what this means and how it can be corrected? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbo

Re: [9fans] Autoexpand in sam

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Re: [9fans] Autoexpand in sam

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[9fans] Autoexpand in sam

Is there a way to implement autoexpand and autocorrect in sam in any way, i.e. for common spelling mistakes and commonly used phrases?  I don't need anything too sophisticated. Thanks.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T

Re: [9fans] Re: Getting to my dos USB drive on plan9 VMWARE (Windows 10)

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[9fans] Re: Getting to my dos USB drive on plan9 VMWARE (Windows 10)

Please note that I tried this first on VMWARE and then qemu with the same problem in both.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tddd6ef89c1e17f3a-Md28992087e0c2fd00d2112d6 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9f

[9fans] Getting to my dos USB drive on plan9 VMWARE (Windows 10)

I have succeeded in installing plan9 on qemu but so far have not had any success in getting via plan9 to the USB fat drive that contains my data. If I go into /dev/ I cannot see the device listed there. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- 9fans: 9fans Perm

Re: [9fans] UTF-8 characters in acme

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Re: [9fans] UTF-8 characters in acme

Thanks for clarifying. Now why does sam not display utf-8 characters on my setup?  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T0d54d4b593281935-M73d5efdb47296d7869a25279 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subsc

Re: [9fans] UTF-8 characters in acme

I came to this impression after reading: "Sam edits uninterpreted ASCII text." http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/sam/ -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T0d54d4b593281935-Mf25e9d16a3b91bb3c67546e2 Delivery options

Re: [9fans] UTF-8 characters in acme

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[9fans] Re: setup-plan9port action

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[9fans] Revised sam cheat sheat

The last cheat sheet I posted was in need of revision and reordering. This one is better than the last--I hope.  CHEAT SHEET OF SAM COMMANDS x cmd - set dot and run command on each matching line . -- apply command to dot , -- apply command to whole document < replace dot with std inpu

Re: [9fans] Breaking up long lines in sam into more manageable ones

Thank you so much for these answers. I greatly appreciate it.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T8df760861ae2c8cd-M7b0cae6b9565025cd21584fa Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

[9fans] Breaking up long lines in sam into more manageable ones

I would like to be able to break up long lines in sam in a way similar to the way I break them up in ed. For ed, I rely on the external command !fold -s -w80 %. This did not work for me in sam. What would be the best way to achieve this in sam? And is there a format line(s) command I could use?

Re: [9fans] sam and samterm in Go

On Friday, 6 August 2021, at 2:54 PM, Philip Silva wrote: > Actually there is a separate fork of 9fans.net/go that also runs on Plan 9 > and uses the /dev/draw there! Here it's now all merged together: > https://github.com/psilva261/go Philip Thanks for the information. --

Re: [9fans] A few more questions about sam

On Friday, 6 August 2021, at 5:04 PM, ori wrote: > It will not run in your setup. The version of sam you decided to use does not support the operators in that script. Many thanks for your response. You have answered my questions.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] A few more questions about sam

On Friday, 6 August 2021, at 2:22 AM, fwrm wrote: > The command ,x/".+"/ would select every string that begins with a double > quote, has one character or more after that, and ends with a double quote. If > we wanted to select only the characters inside double quotes, we could reject > the doubl

Re: [9fans] A few more questions about sam

Thank you very much for your replies which are extremely helpful. I am going to test these solutions and revert back.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T3107cd3bc536dc63-Ma1895276c47f740f67f4c1e2 Delivery options: https://9

[9fans] A learners sam cheat sheet

Below is my learners cheat sheet of sam commands which I am enclosing should find it helpful. I welcome any suggestions and/or corrections. These have been put together mostly from the standard resources, but there are gaps in my knowledge.  $ - end of line/file $-/vi/ -- search from end of the

[9fans] A few more questions about sam

I am running sam as a standalone on Debian 10: https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/ I have found this version to be stable and would not like to change it. I also like the visual display.  I start up sam from the terminal with a single option: font=/mnt/font/GoMono/14/font sam In this scenario, i.e.

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

On Tuesday, 3 August 2021, at 6:29 PM, fwrm wrote: > As for comments in scripts, if you use ssam(1) to run them the easiest way > would be starting the lines you want to be ignored with a character that > isn't a sam command (this will work because ssam sends stderr to /dev/null). I am very grate

Re: [9fans] Searching sam for text

On Monday, 2 August 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mark van Atten wrote: > Look for the part about 'grouping'. Okay. Got it. Thanks. This gives me what I need: ,x g//{ p } -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6d4564e82d943342-Mb69acabb528b

Re: [9fans] Searching sam for text

On Monday, 2 August 2021, at 7:48 PM, Mark van Atten wrote: > man sam I have read the man page several times. It speaks of display commands not of their combinations. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6d4564e82d943342-Mcaf

Re: [9fans] Searching sam for text

On Monday, 2 August 2021, at 6:50 PM, Mark van Atten wrote: > Combine the p with an =. If I add = to ,x g//+-p as in ,x g//+-p= I get a ?newline expected error.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6d4564e82d943342-Mc36c6bb21

Re: [9fans] Searching sam for text

On Monday, 2 August 2021, at 6:48 PM, Paul Lalonde wrote: > I occasionally do (in acme, sam MMV) > ,x/open/+-{ > p > } This works. Thanks.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6d4564e82d943342-M34b7a267df5b9586d22eff2e Deliver

[9fans] Searching sam for text

In sam if I invoke ,x g//+-p sam prints out the hits in the sam window by lines. I was wondering if there is a way of going from any of those search results directly to the line in the document where the string occurs? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https:

Re: [9fans] A few questions about sam

On Tuesday, 27 July 2021, at 2:56 AM, Ethan Gardener wrote: > For completeness, one specific case not mentioned is opening a huge file. For > each file you open, Sam creates and initializes a temporary file several > times larger. If you open a gigabyte-size file, the initialization takes a > wh

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

In any event, is there not a way to run the script from within sam without using that particular version? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T10b1d559ae7d981e-M5ba554cb9f33ef440fb7c81e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

On Monday, 26 July 2021, at 11:07 PM, ori wrote: > 9front's sam does not run on Debian linux. I assumed the version of sam that I downloaded from here:  https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/ was 9front' sam.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.co

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

On Wednesday, 21 July 2021, at 12:09 PM, umbraticus wrote: > also worth mentioning the ^ command if you're using 9front's sam. put your sam commands in script like this: #!/bin/rc cat << STOP x/ +/c/ x/\*/d STOP I cannot get ^script to work from within sam. I do have 9front's sam installed but

Re: [9fans] A few questions about sam

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Re: [9fans] A few questions about sam

Thanks to all! * As far as sam windows being unresponsive, of the reasons suggested, it seems that in my case I am not always entering commands on the last line. When this happens, the sam window does not respond to commands and gets stuck and I am only thereafter able to enter a command if I s

Re: [9fans] A few questions about sam

Thank you both for your responses. I am going to consider them more carefully and revert back.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T60b5c1929a63b077-M88470c3bf339d908722912b9 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/group

Re: [9fans] A few questions about sam

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[9fans] A few questions about sam

I have a few questions about sam which have not thus far been answered for me as I am reading the documentation. I thought that instead of putting them in separate posts, I could just put them into one.  I hope this is acceptable. Please let me know if is not.  * The sam window is not always r

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

Thank you so much Silas for your detailed and informative response. I have settled on accepting your second solution x/$^/!# for the time being. It gives me just the result I need. I use the commented lines mostly as a mnemonic device to recall the meaning of complex commands.  -

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

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Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

I have tested all these solutions and they work. I can now apply the script (now significantly improved) from within sam and also from the command line with ssam. I will keep these posts as examples. The only question that remains is how to add comments to this script. If I use # it is ignored.

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

Awesome. Thank you. I can hardly believe you have managed to reduce all those commands to just a few. I will test this and revert back. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T10b1d559ae7d981e-M093404c48ec88dcc971cf6aa Delivery o

Re: [9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

Thank you all for your responses. I will carefully study the suggestions  provided. sam is new to me and I am trying hard to learn it.  There are obvious errors in the script I provided and I apologise for those. I could as Rob suggested simply apply the ed script, but I am trying to learn sam's

[9fans] Help with a sam cleanup script

In ed I have a cleanup script which I can apply to several files at once. The script removes things like blank lines and spaces between words. To run it on a file or multiple files, I type this command: ed [name of file(s)] < cleanup-script I converted all the regular expressions in the file into

Re: [9fans] ed regular expressions in sam

Thank you. Those distinctions are very helpful. I agree that thinking in terms of lines is easier to reason about. I am going to have to change some of my thinking and break old habits.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te

Re: [9fans] ed regular expressions in sam

Thank you for the clarification. This first usage conforms to ed. I am currently working slowly through "A Tutorial for the Sam Command Language"  http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/sam_lang_tutorial/ but I have yet gotten to this usage of "g" after "s". -- 9fa

Re: [9fans] ed regular expressions in sam

I.e. in sam. In ed, g is frequently used at the end of the line.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te7fcdc06a68bb777-M976ef16f9b129d3abeaa2511 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] ed regular expressions in sam

Thank you all for your responses. They were extremely helpful. The first example, which uses "g" threw me a little because I am not used to "g" at the end of the line. I presume it here means something like, "without changing the value of dot?" -- 9fans: 9

Re: [9fans] ed regular expressions in sam

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[9fans] ed regular expressions in sam

In ed it is trivial to edit either side of a line such as changing the line, I use sam and ed to, echo "I use sam and ed." simply with, g/.*/s//echo "&."/ I am trying to figure out how to do the same in sam.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.