[9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread matt
Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? matt

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/2/16 matt mattmob...@proweb.co.uk: Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? A colleague of mine got one, but I'd wait for better hardware if I was you. --Anselm

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2009/2/16 matt mattmob...@proweb.co.uk: Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? A colleague of mine got one, but I'd wait for better hardware if I was you. I'm on the Android phone new product contact lists of a number of Alibaba and Global Sources vendors (Asian

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Juan M. Mendez
2009/2/16 matt mattmob...@proweb.co.uk: Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? matt Hi, I have one that I bought through ebay, and updated the firmware to have root access. I'm quite happy with it. Since it's the linux

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread hiro
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Juan M. Mendez vej...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/16 matt mattmob...@proweb.co.uk: Anyone got an Android / G1 phone? I'm about to and wondered if there was any feedback, esp. re: Plan 9 ideas? matt Hi, I have one that I bought through ebay, and updated the

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
probably need Android Dev Phone 1 rather than G1. the kernel tree includes firmware for several things. it's not clear how one would get around these: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/common.git;a=blob;f=firmware/WHENCE;h=66c51b275e9e8be1891b5c6c7d3d87ead9db9645;hb=HEAD do mobile

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on their networks? not really. that's why you can get linux source for your moto phone but you can't build a working kernel, much less install it (that's

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread hiro
do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on their networks? Do you mean mobile phone manufacturers?

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Juan M. Mendez
2009/2/16 Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com: probably need Android Dev Phone 1 rather than G1. My G1 wasn't a Dev Phone 1, but I put the firmware for a Dev Phone 1. So that can be worked around. the kernel tree includes firmware for several things. it's not clear how one would get around

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on their networks? Do you mean mobile phone manufacturers? i mean network service providers (e.g. T-mobile).

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread David Arnold
On 16/02/2009, at 2:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on their networks? In the Linux-based phones that I'm familiar with, the GSM protocol is implemented as a separate module. It uses a serial interface (and an extended AT

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread Anthony Sorace
in the US, CDMA operators (notably Verizon) typically do restrict unblessed devices (where, in many cases, those include supported devices simply not sold by them). this is improving, but remains common. the situation for GSM operators is somewhat better. the GSMA regulations (the industry