Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2023-05-10 Thread unobe
Quoth Romano : > References: > > Subject: RUDP and/or others > > I know this is from a thread almost 8 years old on 9fans. > > I'm ignorant of why RUDP wasn't used in lieu of TCP for 9P > connections. Anyone know the whys and wherefores (either technical, > historical, or political)? I had

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 18 October 2015 at 23:43, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: > BAM! I run straight into RUDP. "Designed at Bell Labs for the Plan 9 > operating system". I just skimmed through the (expired) IETF draft from > 1999 and I honestly think the design might be too much. It looks like > it's

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread hiro
Do I understand correctly, you just want to avoid having to implement the complexities of TCP on an fpga? If there was a TCP IP core would you buy it? Why does VNC require an fpga, are you going to transfer enormous resolutions? If yes then I personally would use UDP and a lossy and loss tolerant

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:28:13 +0200 >hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Do I understand correctly, you just want to avoid having to implement > the complexities of TCP on an fpga? If there was a TCP IP core would > you buy it? > Why does VNC require

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 19 October 2015 at 20:31, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: > I seem to remember IL being more complex than just a UDP with counters > and ACK, which is what I'm - sort of - looking for. > I think you might find Plan 9's rudp is essentially that. Conversations are determined by a

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:36:55 +0200 >Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7738449.html (no Google allowed) > > I only read the abstract and found "pathstar" mentioned in references. > - From a Bell Labs

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:31:43 +0200 >Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:15:13 -0700 > >Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > > > > > Anyone know of a

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:15:13 -0700 >Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > > > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw > > one a year ago, but I just can't remember what it was! > > are you looking for Internet Link

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:14:46 +0100 >Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On 18 October 2015 at 23:43, Aleksandar Kuktin > wrote: > > > BAM! I run straight into RUDP. "Designed at Bell Labs for the Plan 9 > >

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-19 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:59:44 -0700 >erik quanstrom wrote: > > On Sun Oct 18 16:16:59 PDT 2015, 9...@9netics.com wrote: > > > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw > > > one a year ago, but I just

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Oct 18 17:11:11 PDT 2015, k...@sciops.net wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:59:44PM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > > On Sun Oct 18 16:16:59 PDT 2015, 9...@9netics.com wrote: > > > > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw one a > > > > year ago, but I just can't

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 05:35:40PM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > > for clarity, i was neither recommending or not recommending rudp, as i know > nothing about the problem to be solved except for the tidbits "fpga" and > "vnc", > neither of which are something i've spent much time with. > >

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:43:56 +0200 >Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw one a > year ago, but I just can't remember what it was! BTW, the purpose of the exercise is to

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw one a > year ago, but I just can't remember what it was! are you looking for Internet Link (IL)?

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Oct 18 16:16:59 PDT 2015, 9...@9netics.com wrote: > > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw one a > > year ago, but I just can't remember what it was! > > are you looking for Internet Link (IL)? there's also rudp, which if i have gotten my second-hand stories

[9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. So there I was, shopping around for reliable datagram protocols when BAM! I run straight into RUDP. "Designed at Bell Labs for the Plan 9 operating system". I just skimmed through the (expired) IETF draft from 1999 and I honestly think the

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Oct 18 15:53:44 PDT 2015, akuk...@gmail.com wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:43:56 +0200 > >Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: > > > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw one a > > year ago,

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

2015-10-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:59:44PM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Oct 18 16:16:59 PDT 2015, 9...@9netics.com wrote: > > > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw one a > > > year ago, but I just can't remember what it was! > > > > are you looking for Internet Link