Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-05-02 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > GOOD NEWS Better news! It made it over the $5K hump. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-04-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com>: http://felloff.net/usr/cinap_lenrek/aijuboard/ http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/014/416/X2R4UMUE536Z3WIALA7SKNVKP4RXX22Y.jpeg GOOD NEWS https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aijuboard khm

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-08 Thread Richard Miller
> You are correct, but Pi2 runs at a higher voltage by default > which meant that force_turbo was incorrectly setting the > "warranty" bit. That was unintended. The mailbox property interface to the gpu has a tag for VCMSG_SET_TURBO. I wonder if doing it that way would bypass the warranty ch

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-08 Thread Richard Miller
> Do the RPI2s break very fast or why is the warranty such an issue? Not an issue for me - the pi is cheap enough that I consider it essentially disposable, so I don't think twice about tinkering. But since I was advising people to use turbo mode it seemed courteous to mention the consequences.

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 18:48:28 PST erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sat Feb 7 18:18:29 PST 2015, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > > On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 02:10:25 +0100 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Do the RPI2s break very fast or why is the warranty such an issue? > > > > A chip's rated clock rate is

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread Brian L. Stuart
> Apparently you can crash one with a light bulb: I once read that a similar thing happened when the IBM 701 was first unveiled to the press. IBM had put the CRT-based storage devices behind smoked plexiglass, and one could see the memory visually. Naturally, the photographers took flash pictures

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Feb 7 18:18:29 PST 2015, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 02:10:25 +0100 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Do the RPI2s break very fast or why is the warranty such an issue? > > A chip's rated clock rate is typically much lower that the max > freq it at which it can run st

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting hiro <23h...@gmail.com>: Do the RPI2s break very fast or why is the warranty such an issue? Apparently you can crash one with a light bulb: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042 khm

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 02:10:25 +0100 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do the RPI2s break very fast or why is the warranty such an issue? A chip's rated clock rate is typically much lower that the max freq it at which it can run stably -- and there is fair bit of variation in this max freq. A rare f

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread hiro
Do the RPI2s break very fast or why is the warranty such an issue?

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 16:50:24 GMT Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > I said: > > > Disclaimer: if you put silly numbers in arm_freq, bad stuff > > might happen. Supposedly the firmware detects this and sets > > an irreversible bit somewhere that voids your warranty. > > There are claims

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread Richard Miller
I said: > Disclaimer: if you put silly numbers in arm_freq, bad stuff > might happen. Supposedly the firmware detects this and sets > an irreversible bit somewhere that voids your warranty. There are claims in the raspberry pi forums that the 'void warranty' bit will be set if you configure forc

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-07 Thread Dante
Thanks a lot, Richard! That's awesome!!! Kind Regards, Dante On 06.02.2015 19:13, Richard Miller wrote: To return to the original subject ... /n/sources/contrib/miller/9pi2 is a Plan 9 kernel which runs on the Raspberry Pi 2 (one core only, so far). I'll put updated source in contrib/miller/9

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread Joe Bowers
FANTASTIC! Thank you so much! That's so cool! On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > To return to the original subject ... > > /n/sources/contrib/miller/9pi2 is a Plan 9 kernel which runs on the > Raspberry Pi 2 (one core only, so far). I'll put updated sou

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread Richard Miller
To return to the original subject ... /n/sources/contrib/miller/9pi2 is a Plan 9 kernel which runs on the Raspberry Pi 2 (one core only, so far). I'll put updated source in contrib/miller/9/bcm later today. mk CONF'='pi2 for the new model, CONF'='pi for the original model. Plan 9 from B

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Feb 6 03:51:08 PST 2015, st...@quintile.net wrote: > See /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc > > That works a treat, > thanks Cinap, Richard, and Erik. great. the 9atom version of usb improves on the original by adjusting a few constants to the standard. but the main fix is several pl

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Feb 6 03:56:17 PST 2015, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > http://felloff.net/usr/cinap_lenrek/aijuboard/ nice. thank you! - erik

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread Richard Miller
> http://felloff.net/usr/cinap_lenrek/aijuboard/ http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/014/416/X2R4UMUE536Z3WIALA7SKNVKP4RXX22Y.jpeg

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread cinap_lenrek
http://felloff.net/usr/cinap_lenrek/aijuboard/ -- cinap

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread Steve Simon
See /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc That works a treat, thanks Cinap, Richard, and Erik. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Feb 5 21:07:18 PST 2015, k...@sciops.net wrote: > Quoting erik quanstrom : > > > > > i was not thinking along those lines. :-( i just wanted to see a picture > > of > > the board. the render is nice, but the toy budget is not so large. > > > > I did spend a bit of time trowling throug

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting erik quanstrom : i was not thinking along those lines. :-( i just wanted to see a picture of the board. the render is nice, but the toy budget is not so large. I did spend a bit of time trowling through IRC logs; I could have sworn aiju had posted a photo of a populated (and runni

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Feb 5 20:38:05 PST 2015, k...@sciops.net wrote: > Quoting erik quanstrom : > > > > > does anyone have a picture of this board? > > > > If you're asking for technical purposes, there's a render at > http://9front.org/img/aijuboard.png but I'm not sure that's the > final cut. > > If you're

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting erik quanstrom : does anyone have a picture of this board? If you're asking for technical purposes, there's a render at http://9front.org/img/aijuboard.png but I'm not sure that's the final cut. If you're asking for physical proof of its existence, one of the guys who owns one is go

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread lucio
> does anyone have a picture of this board? That sounds like the challenge Olimex used to rise to, back when they started as a prototyping and production board manufacturers. I don't see that that is their focus still, but they surely have not lost their skills. It would be nice to have a commu

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Feb 5 11:37:56 PST 2015, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > aiju build a computer arround the xilinx zynq-7000 (dualcore arm > cortex A9 with fpga): > > http://aiju.de/electronics/aijuboard/ > > and wrote kernel and bootloader here: > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sy

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Shane Morris
Hells yes! On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Quintile wrote: > ooo! I think we are about to start using zinq's in a new project... > > I have gotta try it 😄 > > -Steve > > > > > > > On 5 Feb 2015, at 19:42, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > > > > aiju build a computer arround the xilinx zynq-7000

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Quintile
ooo! I think we are about to start using zinq's in a new project... I have gotta try it 😄 -Steve > On 5 Feb 2015, at 19:42, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > > aiju build a computer arround the xilinx zynq-7000 (dualcore arm > cortex A9 with fpga): > > http://aiju.de/electronics/aijuboard

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Shane Morris
Champion. I have a Parallella, with a 7010, and a Epiphany-III. Was wondering if I'd pull the finger out and port Plan 9, or even pay for it. Seems I might not have to. There is also a SnowLEO SDR unit that uses a 7010 and a LimeMicro chip (think BladeRF). Thank you! Great news! On Fri, Feb 6, 2

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread cinap_lenrek
aiju build a computer arround the xilinx zynq-7000 (dualcore arm cortex A9 with fpga): http://aiju.de/electronics/aijuboard/ and wrote kernel and bootloader here: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/9/zynq/ http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/boot/zynq

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread cinap_lenrek
yeah, maybe. i dont know if this is the problem. just what i'd try first. :) -- cinap

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Feb 5 11:20:53 PST 2015, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: > > try changeing the > > following line in /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/dev.c in loaddevdescr(): > > > > uchar buf[Ddevlen+255]; > > > > to: > > > > uchar buf[Ddevlen]; > > See /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc i should have remem

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Richard Miller
> try changeing the > following line in /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/dev.c in loaddevdescr(): > > uchar buf[Ddevlen+255]; > > to: > > uchar buf[Ddevlen]; See /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Shane Morris
Did someone say there was a Zynq kernel? On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:15 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Feb 5 09:28:09 PST 2015, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > > labs loaddevdescr() reads 255+18 bytes device descriptor > > instead of 18 bytes for some reason. try changeing the > > following

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Feb 5 09:28:09 PST 2015, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > labs loaddevdescr() reads 255+18 bytes device descriptor > instead of 18 bytes for some reason. try changeing the > following line in /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/dev.c in loaddevdescr(): > > uchar buf[Ddevlen+255]; > > to: > >

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Charles Forsyth
Basically, Plan 9 (kernel and applications) was designed and written for multiprocessors, and the kernel is written with pre-emptive concurrency in mind (rather than, say, retrofitting it all). That extends to the drivers and most platform-specific kernel code (except where someone slipped up, whic

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread cinap_lenrek
labs loaddevdescr() reads 255+18 bytes device descriptor instead of 18 bytes for some reason. try changeing the following line in /sys/src/cmd/usb/lib/dev.c in loaddevdescr(): uchar buf[Ddevlen+255]; to: uchar buf[Ddevlen]; and see if you still get the short descriptor warning.

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Dante
Don't be evil :-) On 05.02.2015 16:40, Steven Stallion wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Siarhei Zirukin wrote: He didn't ask about 9front. What's 9front? (Apologies, couldn't resist...)

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread David du Colombier
> I am fairly sure there was multicore support in the MIPS > kernels for the big challange machines they had at the labs. I was only listing the kernels still present in Plan 9. The vt5 and ch kernels (and probably others) had multiprocessing support as well. -- David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Steven Stallion : What's 9front? Medium- to low-quality mushroom cloud computing project designed to vandalize treasured artwork. Every interaction I've had with the dev team has been awful. khm

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Siarhei Zirukin wrote: > He didn't ask about 9front. > What's 9front? (Apologies, couldn't resist...)

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Steve Simon
I am fairly sure there was multicore support in the MIPS kernels for the big challange machines they had at the labs. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Siarhei Zirukin
He didn't ask about 9front. On 2/5/15, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > and pc64 and zynq :-) > > -- > cinap > >

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread cinap_lenrek
and pc64 and zynq :-) -- cinap

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread David du Colombier
As far I know, only the pc, teg2 and k10 kernels support multiprocessing. -- David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Shane Morris
Doesn't Plan 9 run on the dual core ARM Tegra2? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Dante wrote: > Hi all, > > Does Plan9 have support for multi-core processors? > Is explicit support needed at all (like in SMP)? > > D > >

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Dante
Hi all, Does Plan9 have support for multi-core processors? Is explicit support needed at all (like in SMP)? D

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-03 Thread hiro
Dockstar and only via USB 2.0 Nowadays i'd buy a pogoplug, they were still available on amazon or ebay for 10$ last time I looked. I'm also using the dockstar for routing. The gigabit is stable and gives enough headroom for my pity 10Mbit uplink, whereas a rpi would break down bec. of USB hardware

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-03 Thread Costin Chirvasuta
> kirkwood had gigabit ethernet way before the rpi even existed and I'm > regularly using multiples of 100Mbit with samba on one, it's super > stable *and* faster which is why I would never pick the rpi for a NAS. > otoh this device doesn't even have video out. What kirkwood device are you using f

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-03 Thread hiro
btw if you really are that bored: please port 9front to one of those wifi SD cards.

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-03 Thread hiro
> I do wonder if they have got it wrong with the Pi-2 and should have gone > with > Gig Ether - Time will tell. They did not, one of the most common usages of the pi is to decode h.264 video, which works just fine over the slow ethernet and even via usb wireless adapters. Fine means the videos bre

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-03 Thread Peter Hull
I struggle a bit with ARM version numbers ... is the Pi2 the same architecture as Beaglebone Black - so they could share kernel source (I know peripherals would be different) Pete

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-03 Thread hiro
> To be honest, the ether performance is not really a limiting feature of the > pi for me, if fact the cpu and ether are a fair match for each other. This might be because the ethernet adapter uses USB which is taxing the CPU a lot.

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:52:08 PST erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Feb 2 13:20:08 PST 2015, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:54:02 GMT Skip Tavakkolian om> wrote: > > > > > > hardkernel's odroid-c1 is similar and slightly better performance for the > > > same price; any sense

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Feb 2 13:20:08 PST 2015, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:54:02 GMT Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > > > hardkernel's odroid-c1 is similar and slightly better performance for the > > same price; any sense which port might be easier? > > Odroid-c1 is Cortex-A5 while Pi2 i

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Sean Hinchee
Some documentation can be found here: http://elinux.org/RPi_Documentation#Raspberry_Pi_Processor_Broadcom_System-On-Chip: On 2/2/15 3:37 PM, Joe Bowers wrote: Does anybody know where to look for documentation on the changes, or general documentation for the bcm2836? On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Steve Simon
Re: Ether speed I was just asking in case there was a perfmormance improvment to be had for free. To be honest, the ether performance is not really a limiting feature of the pi for me, if fact the cpu and ether are a fair match for each other. A significantly faster cpu would upset this balance

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Joe Bowers
Does anybody know where to look for documentation on the changes, or general documentation for the bcm2836? On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:54:02 GMT Skip Tavakkolian < > skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > hardkernel's odroid-c1 is similar and s

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:54:02 GMT Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > hardkernel's odroid-c1 is similar and slightly better performance for the > same price; any sense which port might be easier? Odroid-c1 is Cortex-A5 while Pi2 is Cortex-A7 so Pi2 is more performant (but has worse ethernet and horrible

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
hardkernel's odroid-c1 is similar and slightly better performance for the same price; any sense which port might be easier? http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433 On Mon Feb 02 2015 at 5:15:34 AM Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > Noted it *should

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Sean Hinchee
The difference between Armv6 and Armv7 isn't it? On 2/2/15 7:14 AM, Richard Miller wrote: Noted it *should* be backwards compatible with previous software. Does a 9fan wish to vet the 9pi release against this new hardware? Compatible with user level software, yes. But it will need a new kernel,

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Richard Miller
> Noted it *should* be backwards compatible with previous software. Does a > 9fan wish to vet the 9pi release against this new hardware? Compatible with user level software, yes. But it will need a new kernel, because it has 4 x cortex-a7 cores compared with 1 x arm11 on the older pi.

[9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Shane Morris
Just saw this come up on my Facebook feed: http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/ Noted it *should* be backwards compatible with previous software. Does a 9fan wish to vet the 9pi release against this new hardware? I'd love to give it a go, but I'm not in a position time wise, being m