Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Nov 10, 2008, at 3:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order for the notes to be properly delivered. That was a

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 01:55 +0900, sqweek wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only question is -- where such a note is supposed to be sent to? Can someone, please, educate me on the moral equivalent of process groups, sessions and

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order for the notes to be

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 14:49 -0800, ron minnich wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make a local end of a cpu(1) jump

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread ron minnich
cpu is just great tutorial. notes forwarder, well, I am stil unsure. ron

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread erik quanstrom
At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order for the notes to be properly delivered. That was a sad discovery. Another discovery was that

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread andrey mirtchovski
... would you really honestly say that rolling out your own notes forwarder is a *neat* trick? As opposed to be able to use basic system's FS functionality? ok, how would you implement it, then? how would you deliver a note to a process that's running on a remote machine? would you be

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread andrey mirtchovski
I would like to be able to import the /proc (or similar) filesystem from the remote machine and bind it over the files that my local kernel uses to send notes to the proxy process. That's how my ideal world model would work. Observe how that was also the first suggestion on the notes thief

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-09 Thread sqweek
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only question is -- where such a note is supposed to be sent to? Can someone, please, educate me on the moral equivalent of process groups, sessions and their relationships with #c/cons ? Maybe you worked this

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
I'm not really sure what magic is involved in the DEL interrupt. rio (or ip/telnetd, or ... some other user program).

[9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Chris Brannon
Last night I downloaded 9vx. It works fine from a terminal, using the following invocation: ../9vx.Linux -g -u glenda where -g is the option to run sans GUI. This has one or two complications. There is no way to interrupt or kill the foreground process. Instead, ctrl-c interrupts 9vx itself.

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread gdiaz
Hello, Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. gabi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I downloaded 9vx. It works fine from a

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Christian Kellermann
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081022 11:16]: Hello, Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. Why not write a simple 'shell'

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread erik quanstrom
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081022 11:16]: Hello, Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. Why not write a simple

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Christian Kellermann
* erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081022 13:51]: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081022 11:16]: Hello, Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic combination of

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread roger peppe
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:42 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you mean like, uh, rio or acme? ☺ i can't see why it would be a bad idea to do something like this for text-only mode. it'd be a nice exercise, if nothing else. it should be possible to do without writing a file server,

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread john
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081022 11:16]: Hello, Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. Why not write a simple

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread erik quanstrom
Hello, Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. Why not write a simple 'shell' shell (heh) that cooks input and just runs

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:28 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: rio does provide most everything one would need for a text-mode interface. unfortunately, you can't currently tail -f /dev/text. perhaps such a change would be easier and more general That's a very good point! It hadn't occurred to me

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
This has one or two complications. There is no way to interrupt or kill the foreground process. Instead, ctrl-c interrupts 9vx itself. chris, one of the nice things about the Plan 9 graphics system is that rio is in no way different than any other graphical program. it reads and writes files

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
I was playing around with the modified win program and I realized it's not going to work due to the propensity of acme to redirect standard error to a separate window. This environment has no way of notifying anyone that a new window has opened without being requested except visually. A better

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 10:54 -0600, andrey mirtchovski wrote: This has one or two complications. There is no way to interrupt or kill the foreground process. Instead, ctrl-c interrupts 9vx itself. chris, one of the nice things about the Plan 9 graphics system is that rio is in no way