Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread geoff
The fs kernel's sdata.c hadn't been recognising Silicon Image's and other VIDs and DIDs recognised by the current cpu kernel's sdata.c I've just updated source's /sys/src/fs/pc/sdata.c to incorporate the atapnp() code from the cpu kernel to recognise Silicon Image SATA, Nvidia, ATI, Serverworks and

Re: [9fans] Re: Support for ThinkPad 390X?

2006-06-30 Thread Rodolfo (kix)
Hi,I dont have any ideas about why your X390 have a problem. I try with one and all is ok.2006/7/1, Erez Schatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry to bump this, but, anyone has any ideas? On 6/28/06, Erez Schatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hello, I've been using an old ThinkPad 390X as a study machine, ins

[9fans] Re: Support for ThinkPad 390X?

2006-06-30 Thread Erez Schatz
Sorry to bump this, but, anyone has any ideas?On 6/28/06, Erez Schatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I've been using an old ThinkPad 390X as a study machine, installing different OS's and testing, and I've came across Plan9.I've tried the LiveCD and while installation seems fine, I can't seem to

Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread geoff
At least the Silicon Image SATA controllers seem to emulate the usual ATA/IDE interface and work with our existing ATA cpu-kernel driver; the fs kernel driver may lack their PCI VIDs and DIDs. I'll check.

Re: Re: [9fans] More USB audio

2006-06-30 Thread Sape Mullender
> On 6/28/06, Sape Mullender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/audioadvantage/ >> >> We got one ath the labs. Plugged it into Plan 9. It works. It >> actually outputs a lot of oomph into my headset. Nice >> device. >> >> 44100 or 48000 Hz, 16-bit stereo. H

Re: Re: [9fans] More USB audio

2006-06-30 Thread David Leimbach
On 6/28/06, Sape Mullender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/audioadvantage/ We got one ath the labs. Plugged it into Plan 9. It works. It actually outputs a lot of oomph into my headset. Nice device. 44100 or 48000 Hz, 16-bit stereo. Has mute & volume co

Re: [9fans] rc question

2006-06-30 Thread quanstro
the answer is with <>, as discussed before. i sent this email many months ago. i believe it was marooned on a p9p upas queue from a machine that was just recomissioned and was now sent because i sent another email via upas on that machine. - erik On Fri Jun 30 13:34:09 CDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Re: Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread David Leimbach
On 6/30/06, andrey mirtchovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I got called Barbie, I think that's a first and some progress after all :) It certainly is new, Andrea^H^H^H^H erm...

Re: Re: Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread David Leimbach
On 6/30/06, Rob Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thought it was 'Semprini'. -rob I thought for sure that word would be censored. here are the words not to be used again in this broadcast: B*M B*TTY P*X KN*CKERS W**-W** SEMPRINI Dave

Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread easy laughs
> I thought it was 'Semprini'. No no no that was the aftershave.

Re: Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread Rob Pike
I thought it was 'Semprini'. -rob

Re: Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread jmk
On Fri Jun 30 14:37:01 EDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think I got called Barbie, I think that's a first and some progress > after all :) Utilikilts don't come in pink, Andrey.

Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread Lou Kamenov
On 6/30/06, Lyndon Nerenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think sempron is a marketing term. you need the chip revision letter > to tell what the heck it really is. The system is an eMachines T3304. All I've been able to find out so far is that it's a socket 754 Sempron 3300+ processor. No

Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread Jack Johnson
On 6/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had to go back and read the thread to see how we got here: 1) some piece of hardware which no real effort has been made to programme doesn't work right; 2) familiar discussion about hardware, drivers, documentation

Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
i think sempron is a marketing term. you need the chip revision letter to tell what the heck it really is. The system is an eMachines T3304. All I've been able to find out so far is that it's a socket 754 Sempron 3300+ processor. No info on chipset, on-board Ethernet, etc. Best Buy Canada

Re: Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread andrey mirtchovski
I think I got called Barbie, I think that's a first and some progress after all :)

Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread Ronald G Minnich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need to focus here dammit, jim, where's the fun in that? oh, all right, we'll focus, but it's much more fun to pretend we're barbie. ron

Re: [9fans] rc question

2006-06-30 Thread matt
erik quanstrom wrote: to do a dns query directly, one needs to open /net/dns and write the query and read the results on the same fd. how can this be done with rc? - erik I've got the answer in my plan9 box but I dont have access to it until later :)

Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread jmk
I had to go back and read the thread to see how we got here: 1) some piece of hardware which no real effort has been made to programme doesn't work right; 2) familiar discussion about hardware, drivers, documentation; 3) suggestion is to buy a much more expensive pie

Re: [9fans] rc question

2006-06-30 Thread Abhey Shah
umm on inferno you can do <>/net/dns { echo -n ip www.google.com > [1=0]; addr:=`{read}; echo $addr } sorry thats not actually answering your question but I thought it might be of some use. Abhey On 17 Mar 2006, at 21:06, erik quanstrom wrote: to do a dns query dire

Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread quanstro
i think sempron is a marketing term. you need the chip revision letter to tell what the heck it really is. - erik On Fri Jun 30 13:06:01 CDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think the Sempron is a budget brand which was > > K7 originally but can be K8 depending on how new it is. > > Yah, th

Re: [9fans] More USB audio

2006-06-30 Thread Sape Mullender
> http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/audioadvantage/ We got one ath the labs. Plugged it into Plan 9. It works. It actually outputs a lot of oomph into my headset. Nice device. 44100 or 48000 Hz, 16-bit stereo. Has mute & volume control. Sape

[9fans] rc question

2006-06-30 Thread erik quanstrom
to do a dns query directly, one needs to open /net/dns and write the query and read the results on the same fd. how can this be done with rc? - erik

Re: [9fans] kernels

2006-06-30 Thread erik quanstrom
ron, you need to get out more! unfortunately i'd have to admit to having similar fun this week, but on a different scale: 3000# toyota vs. 76000# flatbed semi. it would have been a bit better with an ibm rs/6000 590 mounted on the grill. i am accepting donations of better hardware. ;-) - erik

Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
I think the Sempron is a budget brand which was K7 originally but can be K8 depending on how new it is. Yah, the technical docs are very unclear about this. Try it and see. I would have to buy the system before I could do that :-(

Re: [9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread jmk
On Fri Jun 30 13:26:31 EDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does the i386 kernel run on AMD Sempron CPUs? An educated guess would say yes. It runs on all other K7/K8 processors. I think the Sempron is a budget brand which was K7 originally but can be K8 depending on how new it is. Try it and see.

[9fans] AMD Sempron

2006-06-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Does the i386 kernel run on AMD Sempron CPUs?

Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread Jack Johnson
On 6/30/06, Jack Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Skimming for source now to do the same size comparison Looks like src/sys/dev/amr/ if anyone has a FreeBSD kernel tree handy -Jack

Re: Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread Jack Johnson
On 6/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Even omitting the firmware image (tw_cl_fwimg.c), which is also vast, that's over 10,000 lines of C for a disk driver, 4,223 lines of which is the `OS Layer' (tw_osl_*). Our largest Plan 9 driver (other than devsdp.c), which is also one of

Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread Brantley Coile
These were the days before switches and hubs, just yellow snake and $1,000 interface boards. This would have been 1986 or so. I was always frustrated that the ideas from the Labs never made it outside the building intact. The Blit turned into the DMD5620 with a $6,000 price tag in the days of $1

Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread quanstro
wow! that's pricy. for 100k you could have had the same style solution in ethernet by buying fancy routers, even in those days. wasn't one of the advantages of dk supposed to be that it was cheep to implement? - erik On Fri Jun 30 09:32:39 CDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Back in the m

Re: [9fans] warning: process exceeds 100 file descriptors

2006-06-30 Thread Russ Cox
> anyone think of anything special I should be looking for? cat /proc/25365/fd when it happens.

Re: [9fans] sam -r with plan9ports

2006-06-30 Thread Russ Cox
It takes a few steps, because you need the local samterm talking to the same plumber that your remote B is. See import(4) (9 man 4 import): EXAMPLE Suppose you run sam -r to the CPU server anna. Sam wants to talk to a plumber on the local terminal, but the file names

Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread Brantley Coile
> ethernet could have been a failure for many non-technical reasons. > it just happened to be at the right place at the right time. and when > problems like collisions (remember 10base(2|5)?) good solutions like > switching hubs were possible. Back in the mid 1980's I was going to try to get the

Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread quanstro
ethernet could have been a failure for many non-technical reasons. it just happened to be at the right place at the right time. and when problems like collisions (remember 10base(2|5)?) good solutions like switching hubs were possible. as for speed, that's the power of new-fangled noise reduction

Re: [9fans] Any one going to change to sata disks?

2006-06-30 Thread Brantley Coile
> A quarter-century later, ethernet continues to amaze. It started out at > 3 mbits, is now at 10 gbits, and somehow it all works, and it can be > programmed at low levels without inordinate pain. Probably, in large > part, because it didn't promise too much, and hence did not require too > muc

[9fans] sam -r with plan9ports

2006-06-30 Thread Gabriel Diaz
Hello, Is there any trick to use B on a remote machine to open files in a local samterm? localhost# sam -r somehost - localhost# ssh somehost somehost# B file and file opens up in local host. I can use B fine while editing locally. thanks gabi

[9fans] warning: process exceeds 100 file descriptors

2006-06-30 Thread Steve Simon
cs 25365: warning: process exceeds 100 file descriptors I have had this twice recently, and will have a hunt for it if I get it again - I was too busy to look this time. I assume this is ncb/cs and the cause is (I think) me rx(1)ing onto a remote server many many times in a single window. anyone