Re: [9fans] pico

2008-01-28 Thread Bruce Ellis
well i agree that russ did a good job but JITs are fun and often make things 10 times faster. brucee On Jan 29, 2008 11:30 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, that's very impressive! > >open: /tmp/something does not exist (2x) >no image lerp >no image do

Re: [9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread Bruce Ellis
think about what you said. you don't understand the auth model. glad to see that you are still replying to everything and generate 40% of the traffic on 9fans. i'm with maht. this is not a "i couldn't be bothered" blog. yes, this is not a love song... brucee On Jan 29, 2008 10:35 AM, erik quanstr

Re: [9fans] pico

2008-01-28 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
Wow, that's very impressive! open: /tmp/something does not exist (2x) no image lerp no image doug But you have a preview, which I was going to add soon. I am sticking with my code interpreter because I know how to use one (I toiled over hoc. and fossil ate my code up l

Re: [9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jan 28 18:01:00 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > without any agreed-upon or secure arbiter of groups which tracks centralized > > information, this does not seem like a good idea to me. > > `centralised' information? > > i assume you'd have to be hostowner to load it, so it's up to t

Re: [9fans] pico

2008-01-28 Thread Russ Cox
> Byron Rakitzis (of posix rc fame) produced a version popi with the JIT > compiler, though sadly his where for cpus which are common cpus these days. Computers and compilers are fast enough now that you can get away with just feeding code into a C compiler instead of writing a full JIT. And there

Re: [9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
> without any agreed-upon or secure arbiter of groups which tracks centralized > information, this does not seem like a good idea to me. `centralised' information? > in your case, however, a simple scheme might have the kernel (or just a > device) accept a ctl request that added > or removed a u

Re: [9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread erik quanstrom
> > in your case, however, a simple scheme might have the kernel (or just a > device) accept a ctl request that added > or removed a user name from a local group table, and then system start up > script(s) would load the table from some agreed source > (and presumably one that's adequately relia

Re: [9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
> explain how it could be more elaborate. it's completely up to them (as it is to fossil or kfs, which use a file /adm/users that they maintain themselves). the location and representation of group membership, and its interpretation are all independent things. that is, all three aspects could be

Re: [9fans] ip/ipconfig question

2008-01-28 Thread lucio
> because the verb is "delete." i don't want to delete the new gateway. > > (nonetheless, i did try it and it does not work.) Oops, blonde moment. Sorry for the noise. ++L

Re: [9fans] I would like to use plan9, but...

2008-01-28 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
As for internet using ethernet, 1) Find out what type of Ethernet card you have 2) Look at plan9.ini(8) to see how to change plan9.ini to do so. % man -P plan9.ini Use the arrow keys to go through pages and q to quit. 3) Type: % 9

Re: [9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread erik quanstrom
> > it's just the same: is the user a member of a given group or not? > how membership is established is up to the file server. > the kernel's scheme is trivial (although it could be more elaborate) > but that doesn't limit what other file servers do. > as with the examples you mention, they have

Re: [9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
> if the user belongs to the group > of the file and group permission is granted, then permission > is granted. ... > is there any sensible interpretation of the group outside > a fossil/kfs/ken's fileserver? it's just the same: is the user a member of a given group or not? how membershi

[9fans] the meaning of group

2008-01-28 Thread erik quanstrom
for a file on a fileserver, the meaning of group and group permissions is pretty clear. if the user belongs to the group of the file and group permission is granted, then permission is granted. for a device file, the meaning of group is unclear to me, as users on a cpu server are determinted by t

Re: [9fans] ip/ipconfig question

2008-01-28 Thread erik quanstrom
> > ip/ipconfig -x /net.alt -g 65.14.39.129 ether /net.alt/ether? delete > > 65.14.39.134 /123 > > why, if you want a default route of 12.51.113.1, do you specify > 65.14.39.129 in the line above? > > ++L because the verb is "delete." i don't want to delete the new gateway. (nonetheless,

Re: [9fans] ip/ipconfig question

2008-01-28 Thread lucio
> ip/ipconfig -x /net.alt -g 65.14.39.129 ether /net.alt/ether? delete > 65.14.39.134 /123 why, if you want a default route of 12.51.113.1, do you specify 65.14.39.129 in the line above? ++L

[9fans] ip/ipconfig question

2008-01-28 Thread erik quanstrom
i can't seem to get unconfiguring an ip address from an interface correct. here's the external routes on one of our main machines minooka; cat /net.alt/iproute 0.0.0.0 /96 65.14.39.1294none 0 65.0.0.0/128 65.0.0.04b ifc- 65.

Re: [9fans] How to read/write pixels from Memimage

2008-01-28 Thread ron minnich
On Jan 28, 2008 1:24 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 9fans is not a blog, try blogger.com now now now :-) Why give the guy a hard time, he's actually discussing real coding he is doing :-) ron

Re: [9fans] some changes to abaco

2008-01-28 Thread erik quanstrom
good deal! we've been using the subpixel font vera. (font compiled in, unfortunately.) /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/subpixel/lib/font/bit you can also use /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/subpixel/vera.tbz subpixel fonts now work with libframe. - erik

[9fans] some changes to abaco

2008-01-28 Thread Federico G. Benavento
lotte% contrib/list -c fgb/abaco fgb/abaco: Sat Jan 26 15:21:09 ART 2008 Now abaco reads $home/lib/abaco.fonts to get the font's paths if present, otherwise the default fonts are used. Mon Jan 28 07:45:48 ART 2008 Fixed a bug reported by cinap, happene

Re: [9fans] Re: Higher level document rendering and editing (Was

2008-01-28 Thread Federico G. Benavento
>> I'd like to point out, though, that the P9 synthetic filesystem is a >> preferable abstraction to a specialised library and in this particular >> instance, I would present a complex, marked-up document specifically >> as a collection of files in such a synthetic filesystem. > that's what aux/o

Re: [9fans] I would like to use plan9, but...

2008-01-28 Thread Federico G. Benavento
> 1)write to newsgroups, and use internet using ethernet nntpfs(4) for newsgroups, check supported hw wiki page to see if your nic it is known to work > 2)use a c compiler ken's cc! > 3)a good tutorial site for commands, programming etc. /sys/^(doc man) and nemo's intro: http://lsub.org/who/ne

[9fans] Re: Higher level document rendering and editing (Was

2008-01-28 Thread pavlovetsky
> I'd like to point out, though, that the P9 synthetic filesystem is a > preferable abstraction to a specialised library and in this particular > instance, I would present a complex, marked-up document specifically > as a collection of files in such a synthetic filesystem. Groovy. For some time a

[9fans] I would like to use plan9, but...

2008-01-28 Thread Nolan . Php
I would like very much to use plan9, but there are some things i am unsure of. this is a list of things i need to know how to do: 1)write to newsgroups, and use internet using ethernet 2)use a c compiler 3)a good tutorial site for commands, programming etc. Thanks -nolan

Re: [9fans] How to read/write pixels from Memimage

2008-01-28 Thread mattmobile
9fans is not a blog, try blogger.com (you likely want an alpha channel in your image, so that each pixel is 4 bytes.) Apparently, my RGB24 manipulation was wrong, and now it works like a charm. The next step is to support a construct like new.red and to eliminate the use of undocumented