Re: [9fans] plan9 httpd/pegasus on unix?

2008-02-27 Thread sqweek
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * John Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you just want to serve static content on Unix/FreeBSD, Dan > > Bernstein's HTTP server in his publicfile package > > (http://cr.yp.to/publicfile.html) is one option. C

Re: [9fans] plan9 httpd/pegasus on unix?

2008-02-27 Thread John Barham
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Beware: this reputation is limited to "secure" - installing and > maintenance of DJB-packages is really ugly ! Not in my experience, and I daresay that if you do use his servers (qmail and djbdns in particular) it's easier than rebuilding your systems after the BIND and

[9fans] Fwd: Does sam have browse command

2008-02-27 Thread Hongzheng Wang
I checked the upe, and also the document of GNU ed. It seems that the `b' command is really a new feature. Then, when such a browse command was not here yet, how conveniently did users browse in page to page manner in ed or sam -d? Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: Hongzhen

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Felipe Bichued
> that's not the problem. moveto is getting called > (/sys/src/cmd/acme/look.c:149) > it also happens if you start rio with mspy. it's deeper. all good. this is just another fine example of the XY problem.

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> this is almost never acme's fault. that's right. > probably you were using vnc to connect, > and your vnc client doesn't support being > told by the server to move the mouse cursor. i was using drawterm. without tippi in between, it works as expected, but the moveto has no effect with it in th

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> just to be clear, i meant the t->what == Tag check. that's not the problem. moveto is getting called (/sys/src/cmd/acme/look.c:149) it also happens if you start rio with mspy. it's deeper.

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Russ Cox
> > There's something broken in that video. The mouse doesn't move to the > > selection on a button 3 operation. > > good eye. yes i noticed it and briefly discussed it with brucee last night. > i'm looking > at it now. this is almost never acme's fault. probably you were using vnc to connect,

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Felipe Bichued
just to be clear, i meant the t->what == Tag check. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Felipe Bichued <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > somehow, i was only able to reproduce the bug if i had some selected > text in the tag bar, and tried to click over it with the 3rd button. > i'm not sure if that's t

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Felipe Bichued
somehow, i was only able to reproduce the bug if i had some selected text in the tag bar, and tried to click over it with the 3rd button. i'm not sure if that's the intended behavior, but it seems that it was triggered by the expand function in /sys/src/cmd/acme/look.c. /* if in selection,

Re: [9fans] Soekris 5501s (was kenfs)

2008-02-27 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:07 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > does anyone know what gbe chip they're using in the '62? > i couldn't find any documentation on their website. > I will try to check tonight or tomorrow. I have one at home all cracked open. ron

Re: [9fans] Soekris 5501s (was kenfs)

2008-02-27 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 26 14:25:49 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Somebody asked why I don't use these boards. The main reason was that, > whlie they are really great systems, they were not quite hackable > enough for BIOS work. Plus, the VGA->serial hardware is not something > I need or want, since I ru

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:36 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > like a dog? More like a pine box. ron

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread erik quanstrom
like a dog? - erik > key word - "Fixed" > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > we were talking about Gorka. > > > > > > > I added at least 20 years to his a

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
key word - "Fixed" On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > we were talking about Gorka. > > > > I added at least 20 years to his age when I fixed his Mac. > > ron >

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we were talking about Gorka. > I added at least 20 years to his age when I fixed his Mac. ron

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Sape Mullender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > we don't assume students are all 30-years grizzled veterans. > > I'm not grizzled! > we were talking about Gorka.

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread Sape Mullender
> we don't assume students are all 30-years grizzled veterans. I'm not grizzled! Sape

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread john
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:30 PM, don bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Seriously? What's the pay look like? > > well it's student pay. It's an intern position. > > ron The pay is pretty good for me, not that I would complain about a raise or anything. The student pay scales are based

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> we don't assume students are all 30-years grizzled veterans. you just turn them into ones ;) seriously though, as a former intern of Ron's I can only recommend it! there's no better way to learn new skills and Ron is a great mentor and a fine master of the programming sword. everybody who fit

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:43 PM, hiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But they will rather want a bit more experienced people, won't they? well, you can apply and see. we don't assume students are all 30-years grizzled veterans. ron

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:30 PM, don bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously? What's the pay look like? well it's student pay. It's an intern position. ron

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread hiro
> And any US citizens on this list can apply to sandia.gov to work for > me on Plan 9 this summer in california. That's awesome. I am really searching for something sane to do in summer, and since i have no qualifications but my finals yet, i'm deeply grateful about such chance. I would love spendi

Re: [9fans] today's quiz

2008-02-27 Thread hiro
What a coincidence. Just today i participated in a "Linux Network Administrator" course. I just went there for the heck of it, not to learn anything. I was surprised though, about the amount i did learn. For example I learned about how... * gcc * Kde * Bash * Suse * Gnu in general * Linux in

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> There's something broken in that video. The mouse doesn't move to the > selection on a button 3 operation. good eye. yes i noticed it and briefly discussed it with brucee last night. i'm looking at it now. i fixed the (lack of) redrawing in tippi window after a move or reshape but before any

[9fans] GSOC 2008 project

2008-02-27 Thread maht
Assembler for Dis in Limbo I could do with one :)

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread don bailey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > And any US citizens on this list can apply to sandia.gov to work for > me on Plan 9 this summer in california. > Seriously? What's the pay look like? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHxchIyWX0NBMJYAcRAlocAJ9/

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Rob Pike
There's something broken in that video. The mouse doesn't move to the selection on a button 3 operation. -rob

Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...

2008-02-27 Thread Uriel
None of those issues are specific to AWK, they apply just as well to sed(1) or any program dealing with regexps. I think the plan9 tools demonstrate that it is not so hard to find a 'good enough' solution; and the lunix locale debacle demonstrate that if you want to get it 'right' you will end up w

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:28 AM, hiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why didn't you just use that old list of ideas? I think there was more > than one page already, full with ideas from last year. Fuck, it feels > like i did my last years application like a few weeks ago. I must have > wasted m

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread hiro
I would love to be a student, especially cause this year I really have a lot of time to spend until i will do a winter semester. Why didn't you just use that old list of ideas? I think there was more than one page already, full with ideas from last year. Fuck, it feels like i did my last years app

Re: [9fans] Non-stack-based calling conventions

2008-02-27 Thread lucio
> That would be fun, but you'd have to find Exec 8, right? Well, I suppose, if only because the EXEC subset of the assembler language was so unfamiliar :-) But the head of computing at the University of Cape Town used to be an international expert on Exec 8, so he may still have a copy. Now that

Re: [9fans] plan9 httpd/pegasus on unix?

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Simon
fgb pointed me to TDs web server on IRC the other day, its really aimed at embedded devices but I would trust his code. http://www.iq0.com/duffgram/http.c -Steve

Re: [9fans] troff -man prints poorly

2008-02-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> troff -ms bla.ms|lp -dstout| aux/download -H/sys/lib/postscript/font > >> -mfontmat|lp -H -d printername > > > > That has the same end result for me as just doing troff -man foo | lp > > Yes, it would. However, if you sp

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> > that may or may not have been an unfortunate choice; > > on a mac with osx 10.5 (leopard) I'm so far unable to view it. > > (maybe a more experienced mac user can view it?) > > maybe somebody can transcode it to mp4 or flash video. for mac users: http://www.rangboom.com/videos/acme_session.mo

Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...

2008-02-27 Thread Sape Mullender
> There is split and other functions, > for example: > > toupper("aí") > gives > Aí > > My guess is that there are many more little (or not) corners where it > doesn't work. Yes, and then there is locale: does [a-z] include ij when you run it in Holland (it should)? Does it include á, è, ô in Fr

Re: [9fans] troff -man prints poorly

2008-02-27 Thread Russ Cox
>> troff -ms bla.ms|lp -dstout| aux/download -H/sys/lib/postscript/font >> -mfontmat|lp -H -d printername > > That has the same end result for me as just doing troff -man foo | lp Yes, it would. However, if you spell fontmap right, it should work. Also the -H option is doing anything here -- tha

Re: [9fans] plan9 httpd/pegasus on unix?

2008-02-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* John Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you just want to serve static content on Unix/FreeBSD, Dan > Bernstein's HTTP server in his publicfile package > (http://cr.yp.to/publicfile.html) is one option. Considering his > reputation for writing secure software it's probably as good a choice >

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Axel Belinfante
thanks Mathieu, Skip, Brucee; looking at it now. Axel. > In case anyone's interested, here's a quick and dirty reencode in h264: > > http://www.ipgp.jussieu.fr/~lonjaret/acme_session.avi > > my encoding skills are rusty and it seems mencoder does not deal well > with .wmv as input, that's why t

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread lejatorn
In case anyone's interested, here's a quick and dirty reencode in h264: http://www.ipgp.jussieu.fr/~lonjaret/acme_session.avi my encoding skills are rusty and it seems mencoder does not deal well with .wmv as input, that's why the size is way bigger than the original :/ but hey, b/w is cheap nowa

[9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
(reposting as my initial post bounced because it had too many recipients) (Cross-posted into inferno-list, v9fs-developer, plan9-gsoc, and plan9-gsoc-mentors) Okay, from the deafening silence outside of students and project nominations, it sound like we better get cracking. At the very least folk

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Inferno plugin ? :) Again ... :) 2008/2/26, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Perhaps this has all been worked out on some super-secret mailing list > or IRC channel - but what's the plan of record for GSoC 2008? We've > got till the 12th of March to work something out. > > >-e

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Bruce Ellis
gotta love gmail ads ... Seattle MacSOS Support - SeattleMacSOS.com - Your Personal Mac Lifesaver Apple Certified Helpdesk Specialist give them a call! brucee On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, I love how 9fans has become a mac tech support group... > > Mayb

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> that may or may not have been an unfortunate choice; > on a mac with osx 10.5 (leopard) I'm so far unable to view it. > (maybe a more experienced mac user can view it?) maybe somebody can transcode it to mp4 or flash video.

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Uriel
Ah, I love how 9fans has become a mac tech support group... Maybe it is time we offocially rename the list to jobsFans or something. uriel On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Geoffrey Avila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I cheated and used XP on Parallels. Usually, Flip4Mac works with .wmvs, > b

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> I cheated and used XP on Parallels. Usually, Flip4Mac works with .wmvs, > but not this time. Is there supposed to be an audio track? if i had a voice like forsyth, there might have been one. besides, we didn't want to wake up tippi.

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Geoffrey Avila
I cheated and used XP on Parallels. Usually, Flip4Mac works with .wmvs, but not this time. Is there supposed to be an audio track? -GBA > > i used the windows media encoder (free download from microsoft). > > that may or may not have been an unfortunate choice; > on a mac with osx 10.5 (leopa

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Axel Belinfante
> i used the windows media encoder (free download from microsoft). that may or may not have been an unfortunate choice; on a mac with osx 10.5 (leopard) I'm so far unable to view it. (maybe a more experienced mac user can view it?) Axel.

Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...

2008-02-27 Thread erik quanstrom
> There is split and other functions, > for example: > > toupper("aí") > gives > Aí > > My guess is that there are many more little (or not) corners where it > doesn't work. > We can go on and on looking for crevices and hiding the bugs further > under the rug > so that they are not evident and f

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Bruce Ellis
no, skip did most of the work. i just reminded him how neat plan9 is and, as usual, that most of the work is already done for you. brucee On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > here's a screen capture of an acme session that might be useful to > those who a

[9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
here's a screen capture of an acme session that might be useful to those who are new to acme. i've put the tools (mspy script and tippi.c) that were used to follow the mouse buttons on sources. with brucee's help it went together quickly and he did the hard bit in mspy plumbing. i used the windo