Re: [9fans] introduction to introduction to plan9 - video

2008-02-28 Thread Hongzheng Wang
Thank you for your work. That's great :-) On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've encoded the videos into H.264 in a MP4 container: > > http://www.kix.in/plan9/videos/acme_session.mp4 (6.5M) > http://www.kix.in/plan9/videos/intro_plan9.mp4 (2.

Re: [9fans] introduction to introduction to plan9 - video

2008-02-28 Thread Anant Narayanan
Hi, I've encoded the videos into H.264 in a MP4 container: http://www.kix.in/plan9/videos/acme_session.mp4 (6.5M) http://www.kix.in/plan9/videos/intro_plan9.mp4 (2.4M) http://www.kix.in/plan9/videos/rio_session1.mp4 (4.4M) http://www.kix.in/plan9/videos/rio_session2.mp4 (2.1M) VLC/Mplayer shoul

[9fans] Unable to find South Bridge

2008-02-28 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
Hiya 9fans! I tried to install Plan 9 today on a Dual Athlon system, with a Tyan Tiger MP mainboard. It is unable to detect any hard drives attached to the system's primary IDE channel. This behavior exists whether DMA is either on or off. During boot, I get: pcirouting: South Bridge ,

Re: [9fans] introduction to introduction to plan9 - video

2008-02-28 Thread Hongzheng Wang
Thanks. But, could you please encode these videos with not so proprietary codes? For example, xvid or ogg/theora? It would be helpful to enjoy your work on platforms without legal native win32 decoders yet. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's on

Re: [9fans] Fwd: Does sam have browse command

2008-02-28 Thread Hongzheng Wang
Thanks. It works. So an encapsulated browse command might be more convenient for sam. Just a wish :-) On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Martin Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, for what b provides this is probably good enough. You can use .+,.+20p > for > disjoined chunks, or .+-,.+20

[9fans] introduction to introduction to plan9 - video

2008-02-28 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Here's one with audio narrative: http://www.rangboom.com/videos/intro2_intro2_plan9.wmv here are the others: http://www.rangboom.com/videos/a_rio_session.wmv http://www.rangboom.com/videos/rio_session.wmv http://www.rangboom.com/videos/acme_session.mov http://www.rangboom.com/videos/acme_session.w

Re: [9fans] plan9 httpd/pegasus on unix?

2008-02-28 Thread sqweek
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did you ever try to building qmail ? > > > > Yes. On linux and netbsd. With and without various patches. Works > perfectly. > > Well, you've probably got the netqmail port,

Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...

2008-02-28 Thread erik quanstrom
> I thought it was obvious that the output was from a 'standard' Plan 9 > terminal. But given the percentage of people actually using plan9 in > this list, I guess I should have been much more explicit. > > And the problem is precisely that the environment under which awk run > commands is complet

Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...

2008-02-28 Thread Uriel
> > % echo |awk '{print |"echo $KSH_VERSION"}' > > @(#)PD KSH v5.2.14 99/07/13.2 > > Why is this broken? If the shell that awk is running is PDKSH, or > KSH_VERSION exists in the environment, this is to be expected. I thought it was obvious that the output was from a 'standard' Plan 9 termin

Re: [9fans] win32 rc

2008-02-28 Thread Russ Cox
> Anyone written a win32.c module for plan9's rc? > > I know about the modified inferno version and Byrons unix one > (which compiles fine under cygwin) but I was hoping to get the > "One True rc"™ working natively on plan9. > > I had a quick look and it doesn't seem that bad, just the usual > tr

Re: [9fans] Fwd: Does sam have browse command

2008-02-28 Thread Martin Neubauer
Well, for what b provides this is probably good enough. You can use .+,.+20p for disjoined chunks, or .+-,.+20p for what b does in ed. It's all in the man page, though. * Hongzheng Wang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks. But it seems that this instruction only works in ed. With > sam,

Re: [9fans] plan9 httpd/pegasus on unix?

2008-02-28 Thread Chad Dougherty
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 06:27:38PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Well, you've probably got the netqmail port, which automatically patches > it's own sourcetree within the build process. (AFAIK, DJB's license > doesn't allow shipping an complete sourcetree, so netqmail has to > be shipped as patch

[9fans] localization, unicode, regexps (was: awk, not utf aware...)

2008-02-28 Thread Tristan Plumb
> erik | Sape * uriel I have been pondering character sets rather alot recently (mostly wishful thinking, by my estimation), so this conversation set me thinking more... > how does one deal with a multi-language file. By not dealing in languages? Unicode (however flawed) solves multi-script files

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-28 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> There's something broken in that video. The mouse doesn't move to the > selection on a button 3 operation. Russ found the problem. synopsis: writes to /dev/mouse weren't being propagated. the fix was simple and made the script even simpler. the good bits are: bind '#|' /n/mouse tippi <>[0]/de

Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...

2008-02-28 Thread Aharon Robbins
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:01:33 +0100 > From: Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware... > To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> > > None of those issues are specific to AWK, they apply just as well to > sed(1) or any program dealing with regexps

Re: [9fans] Encryption

2008-02-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
> Is there an library (like openssl) or an separate fs for that ? ssl(3), tls(3), rc4(2), pushtls(2), pushssl(2), and related pages such as rsa(2) and mp(2)

[9fans] Encryption

2008-02-28 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, how is encryption stuff handled on Plan9 ? Is there an library (like openssl) or an separate fs for that ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ -

Re: [9fans] Fwd: Does sam have browse command

2008-02-28 Thread Hongzheng Wang
Hi, Thanks. But it seems that this instruction only works in ed. With sam, however, the printed area will be increasely expanded each time rather than be disjoined ones. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Martin Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > .,.+20p > > > > > I checked the upe, and also

Re: [9fans] plan9 httpd/pegasus on unix?

2008-02-28 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you ever try to building qmail ? > > Yes. On linux and netbsd. With and without various patches. Works perfectly. Well, you've probably got the netqmail port, which automatically patches it's own sourcetree within the build process. (AFAIK, DJB's lic

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread Noah Diewald
How does the optical sun type 7 mouse fit these requirements? I can't tell from the pictures whether the third mouse button is separate from the wheel or not. The description is 3 buttons "with" scroll wheel. That sounds like there are three real buttons but the pictures I've seen look like it is a

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> At any rate, I had > decided that I preferred scrolling in the discrete steps a mouse wheel > provides vs. trying to gauge how much force to apply to my middle finger > to move the window the desired amount. thanks to russ and rob, plan 9 has a really good solution for that too: $mousescroll

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andrey mirtchovski) writes: > the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the > scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years > now. > >> I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll k

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Lalonde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Airports. Remote offices. The gap between the wall and the desk. Hotel rooms. I'm glad the mice are the only thing I seem to lose this way. Paul On 28-Feb-08, at 7:27 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago whe

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread plan9
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 09:26:39AM -0700, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the > scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years > now. Groovy, I was hoping someone would say it worked fine with Plan 9. Just thought I'd poi

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread Axel Belinfante
> the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the > scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years > now. > > > I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll knob. > > Under Linux (sorry) at least, it was way too sensitive. I couldn't > > pre

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread andrey mirtchovski
the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years now. > I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll knob. > Under Linux (sorry) at least, it was way too sensitive. I couldn't > press and release

Re: [9fans] video of an acme session

2008-02-28 Thread Jack Johnson
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Felipe Bichued <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > all good. this is just another fine example of the XY problem. ¿Todos los problemas son masculinos? When I was learning Spanish, I used to always screw up the gender of the Greek words until I learned that all Greek wor

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread plan9
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 08:26:21AM -0700, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > standard suggestion is the ibm scrollpoint. three buttons and a more > ergonomic scrolling interface than the wheel: > > http://web.mit.edu/atic/www/images/mice/ibm.jpg I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scro

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread erik quanstrom
> > I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago when work got me a system > > through them; it's almost time to order 5 more. > > do the cats get them? > my rabbit got two last month. it's those t-t-teeth. - erik

Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...

2008-02-28 Thread erik quanstrom
i had to dig this off 9fans.net/archive. htmlfmt does some very bad things with non-ascii characters. i hope i put them back correctly. > Yes, and then there is locale: does [a-z] include ij when you run it > in Holland (it should)? Does it include á, è, ô in France (it should)? > Does it includ

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread andrey mirtchovski
standard suggestion is the ibm scrollpoint. three buttons and a more ergonomic scrolling interface than the wheel: http://web.mit.edu/atic/www/images/mice/ibm.jpg

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
> I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago when work got me a system > through them; it's almost time to order 5 more. do the cats get them?

Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Lalonde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I really like Dell's base model optical mouse. Big scroll wheel that's stiff enough not to roll when I middle-click. I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago when work got me a system through them; it's almost time to order 5 more. Paul On 2

Re: [9fans] Non-stack-based calling conventions

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Forsyth) writes: >> an edu may have also had it. Ever heard of The Software Tools >> Virtual Operating System? Any chance you have a 9-track with this >> on it still hanging around? I would love to get my hands on a copy >> again

[9fans] win32 rc

2008-02-28 Thread Steve Simon
Anyone written a win32.c module for plan9's rc? I know about the modified inferno version and Byrons unix one (which compiles fine under cygwin) but I was hoping to get the "One True rc"™ working natively on plan9. I had a quick look and it doesn't seem that bad, just the usual trawling through M

[9fans] Mouse advice for Acme

2008-02-28 Thread Rodrigo Miranda
Hi there, I got tired of getting my mouse to be a good citizen when using Acme (both Plan 9 and ACME-SAC on OS X), it is not really working. The problem is that its mouse wheel is a pain to use as a button, and this makes chording and middle-button use very annoying. So I would like to get me a n

Re: [9fans] GSOC 2008

2008-02-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > key word - "Fixed" > Actually the key word here would be "Blessed". Btw, I am not grizzled, maybe seasoned. You know, the other meaning... griz·zle 1. to complain; whimper; whine. I am starting to have a dejà

Re: [9fans] Non-stack-based calling conventions

2008-02-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
> an edu may have also had it. Ever heard of The Software Tools > Virtual Operating System? Any chance you have a 9-track with this > on it still hanging around? I would love to get my hands on a copy > again. the Software Tools (begun by Kernighan and Plauger's book of the same name) can be f

Re: [9fans] Non-stack-based calling conventions

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> That would be fun, but you'd have to find Exec 8, right? > > Well, I suppose, if only because the EXEC subset of the assembler > language was so unfamiliar :-) > > But the head of computing at the University of Cape Town used to

Re: [9fans] Fwd: Does sam have browse command

2008-02-28 Thread Martin Neubauer
.,.+20p > I checked the upe, and also the document of GNU ed. It seems that the > `b' command is really a new feature. Then, when such a browse command > was not here yet, how conveniently did users browse in page to page > manner in ed or sam -d? > > Thanks.