Re: [9fans] Serious Problem Running Plan 9 on Virtual PC

2008-02-05 Thread Filipp Andronov
Thanks to all. I finally get Plan9 working, it's FLY! :) 2008/2/4, Gorka Guardiola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Feb 4, 2008 12:54 PM, Juan M. Mendez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Following the instrucions here: > > > > http://plan9.escet.urjc.es/9faq.html > > > > I downloaded plan9 image on

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
> If you (not *we*) want to port something port it and let us know when > it's done. sorry, it my mistake, i do not mean that all community should go and port GCC :) > The pattern of "I've just downloaded Plan9 and I want my old tools" is > very common and we just kind of ignore them :) except for

Re: [9fans] Serious Problem Running Plan 9 on Virtual PC

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
Thanks yout very much for replys, i''l try qemu today ) 2008/2/4, Martin Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Eris Discordia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > The ISO image is the semi-official > > snapshot of the latest (or close to latest, depending on where you > > download the image from) Plan 9 4th

Re: [9fans] Serious Problem Running Plan 9 on Virtual PC

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
jc.es/export/vmplan9.tbz I will try this at evening, but i have little question - what difference between that image and official one from pla9.bell-labs.com? :) 2008/2/4, Juan M. Mendez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 04/02/2008, Filipp Andronov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > h

Re: Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
> Reading 9fans mail list archives you will notice C++ and the "object oriented > model" is not > much appreciated, there are a lot of references (including > great fortunes entries) about this > topic. Yeah, i have notice that, but from my point of view, there are very many software where object

Re: [9fans] Serious Problem Running Plan 9 on Virtual PC

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/virtual_machines/index.html Oh! I'm really sorry! It's so shame, RTFM *CONFUSED* Thanks a lot :))) 2008/2/4, Juan M. Mendez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I always used plan9 on native machines. > > But yesterday I used plan9 on qemu and worked fine. > > -- >

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
Hmmm, may i ask a very stupid question? :) I have working with GCC C++ compiler and MS C++ compiler, and i suppose that there are another compilers in the world... But i don't known any other free compiler (yeah, MS compiler is not free, but in russia all MS software IS free :D). So question is, i

Re: [9fans] Serious Problem Running Plan 9 on Virtual PC

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
By the way, do you know some free virtual machine emulator (like VMWare) for linux on what Plan9 could work? 2008/2/4, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:49:51 -, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I have never used VPC or virtual box, but qemu works fin

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-04 Thread Filipp Andronov
ics chip functions, DRI part and OpenGL implementation should be in users pace. But Linux goes in different way, so this is point of discussions too :) > 2008/2/4, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Filipp Andronov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some graphics chip

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
of the other OpenGL implementations to work, then porting > Gallium3D is a lot easier. > > Either way, you won't need direct hardware manipulation on Plan 9. > Just run it from a virtual machine and see where you go from there. > > On Feb 3, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Filipp Androno

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
D]>: > There were many attempts to port OpenGL to Plan 9, none of which I > got to work. I started working on a ground-up 3D library but lost it > to a faulty Plan 9 partition. > > On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Filipp Andronov wrote: > > > Some graphics chip, actually i

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
2008/2/3, Filipp Andronov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Some graphics chip, actually i want port OpenGL to Plan9, but DRI has > ugly architecture and Mesa with X11 are overload by unnecessary code, > as far as i know it is because of historical reasons. > > I have experienc

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
; > On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Filipp Andronov wrote: > > > I'm not sure that "project fork" is a best way. Because hardware > > problem is a little piece of work and it's lays it separate module. > > The biggest part of application is a some computat

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
of this application in "plan9 style", do some soft services like, files for example :) Thanks to all for your help :) 2008/2/3, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You need to do direct hardware manipulation? Then "project fork" is > probably best. > >

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
Heh, i try to "port" my program, and it's really not possible in my point of view :) Actually, i don't have working Plan9 right now, reason is quite simple, on my hardware plan9 does do not work (PC emulators couldn't help because my program should work with some special hardware), so i try to cre

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
> Strangely, no one criticises the Windows development tools... I do, it's horrible and even more, i just don't know such words on English, to describe all my feelings about windows build system : Perhaps i do not known it very well, but i have some experience of development under windows, an

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
Thanks, this is very similar to my thoughts. So if i want port some big linux application to Plan9 i need start new project and copy parts of code from original one. From one side it is sad, because it's very ugly development model (for example if original project will be update, i need update my

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-03 Thread Filipp Andronov
Hmmm, my question was not about new ideological war "GNU vs Plan9". )) I think that my bad English does not allow me to ask my question in correct form, so i will show some sample :) For example, in Linux i have some big application. This application using autotools, so if a want to port it, for e

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-02 Thread Filipp Andronov
Thanks! )) 2008/2/2, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > An implementation of Kaffe, a FOSS Java virtual machine, is available > for Plan 9. I have never gotten it to work. > > http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/netlib/kaffe/ > > On Feb 2, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Filipp Andronov wr

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-02 Thread Filipp Andronov
ure --prefix=$home --build=i386 --bindir=$home/bin/ > $objtype --lib=$home/lib > > On Feb 2, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Filipp Andronov wrote: > > > Thanks for a fast reply ) > > I'll check out documents about APE, if my questions will be actual > > after that, i will pos

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-02 Thread Filipp Andronov
oftware using APE: > > page /sys/doc/ape.ps > > On Feb 2, 2008, at 2:12 AM, Filipp Andronov wrote: > > > Hello everyone :) > > I'm newbie in Plan9 system, so i have a couple of questions about > > it :) > > > > And the first one looks like this: does

Re: [9fans] A newbie question...

2008-02-01 Thread Filipp Andronov
Hello everyone :) I'm newbie in Plan9 system, so i have a couple of questions about it :) And the first one looks like this: does GNU build system (autoconf, automake, e.t.c) has been ported in Plan9? Or maybe there is some alternative? :) I want port some software from linux to Plan9, but coul