hey are not reliable, so best go live in a very deep cave, just
make sure there is no Internet access, the world will be grateful for
it.
uriel
Pity you are so busy, we all would love so much to hear more of what
you have to say about lunix MTAs.
And please, keep us updated with every detail of your tireless efforts
to 'create' a GPL fork of qmail, that project would be of utmost
relevance and usefulness to Plan 9.
uriel
On F
n in; in other
words, awk spreads its 'simian' (ape-ish) nature.
uriel
native port of awk that fixed most (all?) of this issues,
it can be found somewhere in his contrib dir but I don't think is
production-ready.
uriel
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Sape Mullender
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is split and other functions,
> > for e
Ah, I love how 9fans has become a mac tech support group...
Maybe it is time we offocially rename the list to jobsFans or something.
uriel
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Geoffrey Avila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I cheated and used XP on Parallels. Usually, Flip4Mac work
suddenly lit by the headlights of a Peterbuilt.
>
> `It's faster?'
>
> `No, it's not!'
>
> End of questions.
I would pay good money for a video of this exchange...
uriel
orks (ie., boots) with NT's broken ACPI
implementation...
This makes adding ACPI support to your favorite OS most fun, fun, fun.
uriel
If you want to write web apps in rc, p9p is enough.
http://gsoc.cat-v.org is built with rc based templates and the 'werc'
framework (barely over a hundred lines of rc code).
If you want to do things right I would use mjl's new httpd for Inferno.
uriel
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:
"For the sinner deserves not life but death, according to the disk
devices. For example, start with Plan 9, which is free of sin, the
case is different from His perspective."
-- Mark V. Shaney - http://danny.oz.au/danny/humour/shaney1
On Feb 19, 2008 5:11 AM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
While we are at it... lets remember that young people don't know any
history. Everyone knows that the first language with garbage
collection was Visual Basic.
uriel
On Feb 19, 2008 1:43 AM, Andrew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Small point. The quote is `Le
; I really learn here, and I
> love what I call the "uriel/bruce touch" (I have learned now that it
> is a bit of "boyd touch", but I arrived here a bit too late for
> that...).
You (and everyone) should read the archives, they are pure gold, the
quality of the discussion
.net and boydo.net are gone, anyone knows where to find a mirror of
boyd's stuff? I somene can find I copy I will try to host it. (A
source more convenient than archive.org would be appreciated,
specially if it includes full blog archives).
uriel
nail straight in the head.
uriel - trying to do a boyd
On Feb 18, 2008 5:46 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And if you're going to rebut and say that limbo needs dis, then check this
> out:
>
> /n/sources/contrib/andrey/dis.tar.gz (or something)
>
&g
ving
to worry about all this saves many headaches when you want to port
Inferno to a new arch too.
uriel
t innovation GNU has ever brought to
unix, in gnu systems I rarely even bother checking the docs, because
even random trial and error usually takes much less effort than
navigating the fetid info swamp.
uriel
of all the jobs that have been created thanks to them, I bet Mr
bs would love to have invented them!
uriel
nd (which if the last action was a 'send'
becomes a single click) is usually much better. Inside acme's win it
is even easier. And also, it is rare to Snarf with a menu when you can
mouse chord instead.
uriel
> 5. to make rc auto-scroll for programs that output many pages of text
Inferno.
On Feb 8, 2008 10:13 AM, Hongzheng Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Currently, I installed a Plan9 system on a computer while I still
> usually work under Debian Linux running on another computer. So I
> wonder how I can conveniently access the Plan9 system from my Linux
> b
o any libraries that must be shared need to be recompiled.
I have yet to see that anyone (that is not dead) has ever got the GCC
port to work at all. (Fgb spent lots of time trying to get it to go,
but to no avail).
That it is (was?) linked from the website seems to add more confusion
than anythin
ed(1) is worth learning (and often the fastest way to do small edits).
And there is always cat(1), which with hold mode is almost a full
fledged editor.
uriel
On Feb 5, 2008 6:58 PM, Michael Andronov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>You are probably pressing the wrong butto
m/ipn/2007/10/lab-80-drawterm-plugin.html
uriel
erstand that it was stupid, but first feeling...No IDE for
> development, no C++ support, no GCC environment, no autotools...It is
> not bad at all, but it was suddenly :)
Some 20 years 'suddenly'...
uriel
And when you thought it couldn't get better, from the top of
http://www.comeaucomputing.com
"Bursting With So Much Language Support It Hurts!"
Most fortune-worthy line ever.
uriel
On Feb 4, 2008 12:52 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > because something had t
den GCC.
And of course ken never did anything after writing ed... not that
anyone remembers ed anymore, the other day I found the Debian
installer doesn't have ed... but it has nano! oh joy of progress! and
if the linux tty gets seriously confused, oh, nano is so much more
effective at filling
years ago.
uriel
P.S.: Sorry for being so easily trolled, but seems that I'm not the only one ;)
On Feb 3, 2008 2:17 AM, Robert William Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Juan M. Mendez wrote:
> > On 02/02/2008, Martin Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
Autotools badness is way beyond most peoples wildest imagination...
uriel
On Feb 2, 2008 6:10 PM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But if autotools could "fly" under Plan9 it is not so bad as i think :))
>
> autotools is every bit as bad as one could think.
>
>
re is only
so much time to waste in the hell of web technologies...
In the end I think linuxemu is the way of the future...
uriel
On Jan 24, 2008 11:05 AM, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, my 2ยข worth.
>
> I turn flash off on all the browsers I use, I find it irritatin
s a
> what-people-want compliance.
what-people-want is the Holy Trinity 2.0: Firefox, GCC and Linux.
Anything else will never be 'compliant' (unless you are under the
Job's distortion field...)
uriel
This has been discussed in the past in the proper place for it: the
inferno-list.
And no, I don't remember why there are postscript files with .pdf
extension, and obviously have no clue why this has not been fixed.
uriel
On Jan 18, 2008 3:18 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED
shared so many wonderful things.
uriel
P.S.: I'm awaiting to get a call saying I ordered an MP5...
Absolutely, and it will make a ssh2net much more likely without which
ssh2 on plan9 is nowhere as useful as it could be.
uriel
On Jan 3, 2008 6:26 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 2008 8:02 PM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Oh, btw, for everyo
I think it is, I thought cinap ran xvnc under linuxemu too, but I
might be wrong.
uriel
On Jan 3, 2008 4:58 AM, Federico G. Benavento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the x server is not running on Plan 9
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 12:39 AM, John Floren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
usual) wrong and now I think it is the best
way to waste the least amount of time and effort trying to run lunix
junk on Plan 9. Oh, btw, for everyone clamoring for ssh2, openssh runs
just fine under linuxemu.
My hat goes off to russ and cinap for their amazing work on linux emu.
uriel
On Jan 3, 2008
If you are looking for obnoxiousness and silliness devoid of any
content I recommend you re-read what you just wrote.
Or you could go and write yet another broken and useless url parsing
implementation.
uriel
On Dec 21, 2007 11:35 AM, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
&
On Dec 21, 2007 11:13 AM, Kernel Panic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uriel wrote:
>
> >That is why somebody (cough) riped out the url parsing code from webfs
> >and put it into a library, and then updated abaco to use that
> >library... but we all know here code
That is why somebody (cough) riped out the url parsing code from webfs
and put it into a library, and then updated abaco to use that
library... but we all know here code and effort duplication is good,
so never mind.
uriel
On Dec 20, 2007 4:27 PM, Federico G. Benavento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
During his IWP9 talk he mentioned he had retired.
uriel
On Dec 17, 2007 5:03 AM, Douglas A. Gwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somebody edited the Wikipedia article "Dennis Ritchie" to insert
> a rumor that he retired from Bell Labs/Lucent (or whatever the
> compan
There are a few here: http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Papers/index.html
Probably from those there, the closest to what you want could be:
The Ubiquitous File Server in Plan 9 by C. H. Forsyth and Distributed
Computing With Plan 9 by Sape Mullender and Dave Presotto.
uriel
On Dec 12, 2007 6
).
uriel
On Dec 5, 2007 3:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Many thanks to all the organisers, speakers and attendees.
>
> I really enjoyed it and learned a lot.
>
> There'll be some photos on flickr in a day or 3: I'll post the address when
> they're there.
Somebody was asking why replica sucks?
uriel
On Nov 24, 2007 6:46 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realized that a few minutes
> .I after
> sending myself the email. Oh well. What was the point of that - did
> someone rewrite the entire library? Why didn'
that there
was no bug.
uriel
On Nov 23, 2007 12:04 AM, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...i'm more inclined to suspect memory problems.
>
> Thanks Russ for the very detailed analysis.
>
> I will start by reseating the RAM and if that fails
> I will pe
After plan9dev was killed (I still don't know why, I think it
performed exactly the function you want), somebody else created this:
http://groups.google.com/group/plan9-tech
uriel
P.S.: I got bashed for even mentioning this list exists some months
ago, so I guess it is not what you want
In any case, what needs work in the wiki is the content, reorganizing
it might help, but please, if you do so make sure to finish
rather than leave the whole thing in some random state of flush which
is how the wiki has spent most of its life.
uriel
On Nov 21, 2007 10:08 PM, Navin Johnson <[E
> [...] usable web browser would be a fine idea.
No, a 'usable web browser' would be an oxymoron.
uriel
com/wiki/plan9/errata/
I'm pleased to see Geoff actually updated that page some months ago
(to point out ms2html is deprecated).
uriel
On Nov 20, 2007 11:42 PM, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2007 1:36 PM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Read 9fans archives, replica/pull has wiped out more than a handful of
> > systems,
> > if you run venti you can recover, but it i
tency sensitivity.
uriel
On Nov 20, 2007 9:21 PM, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2007 10:31 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Nov 20, 2007 4:57 PM, Federico Benavento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > lsr, replica, for me are the sa
it is too fragile and too slow, but I don't
think my opinion on this matters much.
(Now that we have python we could use hg... although I fail to quite
see the issue with plain tarballs)
uriel
>the principle
> still applies, you can't keeping track
> of files inside tar files i
ned in the
ever growing dunes of gratuitous complexity. *sigh*
uriel
P.S.: I miss boyd... "if you want lunix you know where to find it".
On Nov 19, 2007 7:48 PM, Robert William Fuller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Charles Forsyth wrote:
> > yes, that's the
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Setting_up_a_sources_mirror/
On Nov 17, 2007 6:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I started to mirror the entirety of /n/sources/contrib, but the
> results are disappointing.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, there is no "replica" facility around "contrib",
> could i
Maybe someone could tell you, but they would have to kill you afterwards.
uriel
P.S.: Obviously even if I knew anything about this subject I could not
confirm or deny any such knowledge without breaching the laws that
govern the wonderfully open and transparent plan9 development process
On Nov 14, 2007 8:45 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have nothing against gcc. I have everything against the GPL. I have
> no idea of Solaris' history, though.
Then what are you doing in this mailing list?
uriel
> On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:55 AM, [EM
People in #plan9 have been reporting random errors downloading the ISO
for quite a while... just in case anybody cares.
uriel
On Nov 14, 2007 7:32 PM, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /usr/web/plan9/locks/71.231.98.120: rc (9down): can't open:
> '/usr/web/pla
s/UNIX/Plan 9/g
I love that post, but I don't think s/UNIX/Plan 9/g is valid, we are
not talking about microkernels here, and see also Inferno.
uriel
, but then, I
feel sorry for the VFS they have to deal with...
uriel
On Nov 13, 2007 2:30 PM, John Stalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I picked this idea from the GSoC07 Wiki page: porting the Plan 9
> > userspace to the Linux kernel.
>
> For your own sanity I would sugge
deal (and you are still having
a lunix environment outside the plan9 environment).
In any case, I'm not sure I see the point of all this arguments before
not a single line of code has been written (and much less released),
the more people we have bringing plan9 technologies to the world the
better.
uriel
approach is that it works nicely in steps, and if
you want to do that change later on you wont need to change anything
else.
uriel
ustom userspace servers.
uriel
On Nov 13, 2007 11:05 AM, Gorka Guardiola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 2007 10:28 AM, Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am I on the right track?
> >
>
> See THNX by rminnich, an lguest port of plan 9 with drawte
Thanks!
Please, could you put it in sources/contrib?
Thank you
uriel
On Nov 11, 2007 2:58 PM, Moroo Jun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I applied plan9 patch on Python 2.5.1.
>
> You can get it from
> http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/moroo/Python-2.5.1-Plan9.tgz
>
>
>
the same
thing reusing the already existing functionality in Inferno.
uriel
On Nov 6, 2007 10:43 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/6/07, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 11/6/07, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
style of clear and concise information
and simple examples that help illustrate the general concepts, but
that does require the reader to actually *understand* things rather
than just follow an arbitrary set of steps.
Best wishes
uriel
>
> > some important stuff is hard to find;
>
> Sometime
> "man page jumping" is a problem.
Use the plumber luke. (Specially in acme, any man page reference is a
right click away)
kers
can already pick the pile of papers lying on your desk so you should
trust them anyway.
Seeing this kinds of arguments is quite sad, specially given how far
ahead plan9 is from every other system when it comes to *real*
*practical* security.
And I'm an idiot, but this whole discussion has become quite stupid.
uriel
/bin/ls, and the remaining 0.1% it doesn't hurt to be explicit and run
./ls
But this has been discussed before, and 'the powers that be' didn't
agree, I only wish I could understand why, but that is probably my
fault.
uriel
On 10/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAI
rk on both books
uriel
On 10/18/07, Francisco J Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just submit bugs to me just drop me a line.
>
> I know sometimes it takes a long time for me to put the fix in, I'll
> try to be faster.
>
> thanks for the help, btw.
>
> On
/gato' to '/bin/cat' if your locale
is in Spanish?)
And now that you mention Gettext, if only I could get back all the
time I wasted trying to compile some stupid program (that should never
have been 'localized' in the first place) which is somehow unhappy
about the gettex
Might be a good idea to move the addons page to the wiki, this was
suggested years ago, but I guess at the time it was not considered
feasible because the web interface to sources was not open yet.
uriel
On 9/28/07, Anthony Sorace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to whoever made the
FYI, sources and the wiki have been intermittently down most of the
day (when I started typing this email the wiki was down, seems to be
back up right now, but the web interface to sources is down now, and I
have had trouble accessing sources over 9p all day).
uriel
P.S.: Thanks to people in irc
Thanks for the prompt repply, I guess I have not been looking closely
enough at the latest patches.
uriel
On 9/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually most patches processed recently have not been deferred. A
> few long-outstanding ones that we may eventuall
I just noticed that most patches processed lately have been
'deferred', what does this mean?
Best wishes
uriel
hat we can keep working on it and that we have
learned to do better next year.
Best wishes
uriel
On 9/19/07, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I confess to being impressed by the Plan 9 port to OLPC. I did the
> first BIOS for this machine and I kind of appreciate the difficu
X headers:
#define NBBY8 /* number of bits in a byte */
uriel
On 9/18/07, Rob Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/17/07, Douglas A. Gwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > erik quanstrom wrote:
> > > i think the devolution of gnu grep is quite inst
webfs(4)
On 9/17/07, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
> I'm currently thinking about moving out mozilla's web access
> handling (http + friends) to some 9p server to make moz's structure
> some reasonable bit simpler and make performance tweaking easier
> (w/ the current
f having a changelog).
Why this approach was considered a good idea rather than having the author
of the change write a changelog entry at the same time the change is
made/committed-to-sources is something I have never understood.
uriel
On 9/10/07, SHRIZZA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I&
es are owned upas:upas and mode 775 so I'm not sure how to
> write them
> unless I mount fossil -AWP
I might be missing something, but any reason not to just add bootes to
group upas?
Best wishes
uriel
Any chance this could live in sources? Even if kenfs is not part of
the distribution anymore, it would be nice to have 'unofficial' place
where people who still want it can find the latest version.
uriel
On 9/9/07, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i've bee
n+1.
Actually, fossil works with much more fine grained granularity than
one day, it is up to the user to decide how that granularity should be
and for how long such snaps should be kept. (sorry for nit picking,
you probably knew that already, just was pointing this out for whoever
might not know)
uriel
Even if you know C, the reasons and purpose of a change are very often
non-obvious. Specially if you are not familiar with the code being
changed and all you want to know is if whatever bug was bothering you
is supposedly fixed or not (so you can test it and provide due
feedback).
uriel
On 9/9
titor.
Maybe, if you have ridiculously low latency. Which is one of the
reasons I would like to see the latency issues addressed, so 9P
services can work well over non-LAN networks. Maybe we can finally
agree on a solution for this at this year's IWP9?
Best wishes
uriel
Can't find out for sure until someone fixes it :))
One more reason IMHO why we are best off having it disabled, so when
things freeze we know it is something else.
Best wishes
uriel
On 9/3/07, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The current swap just frustrates peo
fined convention, and then
clients who cared about such extra 'features' could use them without
changing 9p, existing servers or clients (which don't care about this
'features').
uriel
On 9/3/07, Joel C. Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/3/07, Uriel <[EMAI
ap is left alone, when it is actually broken.
The current swap just frustrates people who expect it to work, and
then have their systems freeze randomly. Maybe by disabling/remove
swap support, then if someone really needs swap he will fix it first
and then we can add it back.
Best wishes
uriel
o the file name would make more sense)
uriel
On 9/2/07, Joel C. Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/2/07, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And actually, I think one could have something similar to Douglas
> > suggestion in Plan 9 without changing the kernel
Except that swap, is, as far as I have been able to figure out, broken.
uriel
On 3 Sep 2007 01:35:14 -0400, Scott Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:38:44PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > would have to commit just for stacks. With 2,000
from tip9ug, or use a random
http proxy and make the whole thing pointless (other than keeping out
people like iru).
I might be stupid, but this still makes no sense to me, and I would
like to know why nobody else seems to have any such problems.
Best wishes
uriel
P.S.: Note the following noti
This is probably a silly question, but why should anyone be denied
access on the basis of whatever a whois server who knows where might
or might not do?
Best wishes and thanks for fixing the issues iru was having.
uriel
On 9/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If
On 9/2/07, Joel C. Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/1/07, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > With this way of thinking we will never catch up with lunix's 400
> > syscalls (and counting, not to mention the ioctls)!
>
> We're partly there
With this way of thinking we will never catch up with lunix's 400
syscalls (and counting, not to mention the ioctls)!
uriel
> See /sys/src/libc/9sys/dirread.c and read(5). Plan 9 doesn't have a
> distinct system call for reading directory entries.
>
> --Joel
>
tat file /sys/lib/dist/bin/386/tailfsrv:
'/sys/lib/dist/bin/386/tailfsrv' does not exist
mkfs: proto.cp:102: can't stat file /sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/tee:
'/sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/tee' does not exist
mkfs: proto.cp:104: can't stat file /sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/test:
'/sy
Thanks for fixing this!
Is the code for generating the images somewhere?
I have tried to generate my own images a few times, but it is a bit
tricky, and it would be nice to use the same process used for the
official ones.
Best wishes
uriel
On 8/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTEC
(this days lost everywhere except in Plan 9) is still the
most powerful, file servers simply and transparently expand the
environment where tools live and interact.
Not everything needs to be a file server, but everything should handle
text streams (ie., pipes or files).
Best wishes
uriel
On 8/2
make it work in practice given how much text out there will
probably become messed up, you could add yet another toggle to
enable/disable this, but that would create yet another thing one has
to worry about fiddling with, having to worry about eight or four
space tabs is already painful enough.
Best
ccompanying article, so we're not left with just the talk slides).
This would be wonderful, not because utah2000 is less true today, but
because it is even more true than seven years ago and the world still has
not learned anything from it.
uriel
to do with my point about icons for window
> managers, since mail messages are not files, generally speaking.
upasfs(4) In Plan 9 everything is a file (server).
And that is one more reason why extended attributes make no sense in
Plan 9, because if you need them it means you have not done a good job
designing your file server interface.
uriel
; > (Exeunt left mumbling and shaking head).
>
> Well, see that's the problem -- even the best kind of art might
> need a bit of introductory appreciation lessons.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> P.S. boyd, is this you? :-)
Nah, not harsh enough, but I can feel the ground shaking from the
spinning somewhere...
uriel
I guess robert is not the only one who has to do some reading of 9fans
archives...
uriel
On 8/21/07, David Leimbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm who's Dave L? I thought I was Dave L, but this isn't me Dave L.
>
> Super :-)
>
> On 8/20/07, [EMAIL PROTE
heritance.
> What a way to introduce myself to the list. I'm sure I'm making friends
> fast :-p
Just be glad that boyd is not around anymore ;)
uriel
ly create many more jobs, so
they keep adding layers of crud but wont implement the solution that
has been around for ages... has anyone learned anything from plan9?
I'm starting to doubt it.
Why is it that every new software feature people come up with makes me
think of the "I did it for you all" interview?
uriel
>From #plan9 some years ago:
the only places for icons is in a church, a burning church at that
On 8/20/07, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/20/07, Francisco J Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Do you prefer embedding the "face" in each mail as metadata instead of
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plexity is helping create, I'm sure the good shape of the world
economy is in good part thanks to the great progress in our wonderful
software industry.
Best wishes
uriel
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