> So what is supposed to be wrong with using a manifest constant
> instead of hard-coding "8" in various places? As I recall,
> The Elements of Programming Style recommended this approach.
i see two problems with this sort of indirection. if i see NBBY
in the code, i have to look up it's value.
bn = addr % h->msize;
msize must be zero.
- erik
> erik quanstrom wrote:
> > i think the devolution of gnu grep is quite instructive. ...
> > it gets to the heart of why plan9's invention and use (thank's rob, ken) of
> > utf-8 is so great.
>
> If the problem is that Gnu grep converts any non-8-bit characte
> I'm currently thinking about event notifications via 9p.
> An simple way would be just reading from some file, and this
> read operation will sleep until some event occours.
>
> The question is: how long can that operation sleep ?
> Is there any timeout ?
neither 9p nor the plan 9 kernel nor
>> I know we have some faculty on this list. Please talk to your students :-)
>
> regarding the madness of making complex software (that time, it was
> about configure).
>
> I have allocated half of the presentation lecture for this semester to
> "Why does this matter at all". Among other things
and the name of crn is resolvable
>
> cpu% ndb/query ether `{cat /net/ether0/addr} sys
> crn
make sure that ndb/dnsquery can also resolve crn.mteege.de.
> ...
> \l!(.*) alias \1
> \lmteege\.de!(.*) alias \1
???
> \l\.mtee
ip/httpd/mirror [-b inbuf] [-d domain] [-r remoteip] [-w
webroot] [-N netdir] method version uri [search]
...
Mirror is a trivial server that just returns the method,
URI, any search, the headers, and the message body sent by
the client.
don't kno
> timed again. 50 s from 'boot from tcp' till user: prompt,
> immediately after that secstore prompt, then 50 s or so
> till term% prompt.
>
> cable modem connection is (I think) 1024/256.
> regarding latency: ip/ping to the fs:
> 31: rtt 25969 mus, avg rtt 24092 mus ...
>
(do you mean µs?)
i t
> getting your root fs over a wide-area network can be quite painful;
> you're not moving a ton of data, but the process is very
> latency-sensitive. i've not done it in a few years, but boot times of
> 5-10 minutes were not unusual. cfs(4) cut it to about a quarter that.
>
> still, what i ended u
>> the hostowner must be in group upas. all users allowed to mail must be
>> in group upas.
>
> that's news to me.
s:to mail:to receive mail:g
if that's still news to you, then maybe something has change?
- erik
>> 2. Set up mail
>> I haven't got mine to work yet so no point adding it to the script
>> Mail files are owned upas:upas and mode 775 so I'm not sure how to
>> write them
>> unless I mount fossil -AWP
>
> I might be missing something, but any reason not to just add bootes
> Any chance this could live in sources? Even if kenfs is not part of
> the distribution anymore, it would be nice to have 'unofficial' place
> where people who still want it can find the latest version.
>
> uriel
that's the eventual goal. i've made a number of changes. i'd like to
have a way t
i've been working on kenfs as we needed a way to have
automatic offsite backup. i am using aoe to do the offsite
bit so theoretically, one could have a kenfs with no disks.
i've also rewritten the marvell sata driver, added the intel
ahci driver, revamped mmu code. finally, i have a slight
change
> True, but there are no comments at all, so I can't really know what the
> changes fix.
> I'm thinking, as i'm not a big C hacker, that a completely different change
> might be made to fix the problem, and the change i'm waiting for would then
> never appear.
> Oh well, I guess I'm expecting a
> The problem is that you need, in a way, to break 9p. You need readahead, you
> need to bundle requests, and you need to cache in a very careful way.
the way i read the protocol, 9p does support readahead. Tread
takes tag, fid, offset, count. i can have up to 64k tags, so i think
this means i c
you can use history(1) on sources.
cpu% 9fs sources
cpu% cd /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/venti/srv
cpu% history ifile.c
Sep 8 23:03:56 EDT 2007 ifile.c 2592 [geoff]
Sep 8 23:03:56 EDT 2007
/n/sourcesdump/2007/0909/plan9/sys/src/cmd/venti/srv/ifile.c 2592 [geoff]
Apr 25 17:03:46 EDT 2007
/n/s
> We already agreed on a solution. Nobody is interested in implementing it.
>
> On 9/8/07, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > have you compared its performance to webdav?
>> >
>> > I don't have any numbers with me, but I would expect 9P to work
>> > faster than WebDAV since 9P works one layer
> found it!
>
> that is "defghijklmnopqrstuv..." instead of the expected "1234567890abc..."
>
> 13 bytes!
>
> b->data is incremented (and b->len decremented)13 bytes to skip the
> "venti config" magic in readifile() ifile.c:39.
> and freezblock() alculates the position of the zmagic by b->data
as a salute to the days of typing in machine code from smalltalk
magazine. (wasted youth!) here is the backtrace complete with
errors introduced by a faulty connection between the image and
keyboard.
abort+0x0 /sys/src/libc/9sys/abort.c:6
freezblock(b=0x17d1f90)+0x38 /sys/src/cmd/venti/srv/zbloc
> Acme treats all text as UTF-8. If the input text was ms-kanji, it won't
> be UTF-8 and when acme reads it, it will end up full of encoding errors
> - represented in UTF-8. Running that UTF-8 text back through
> tcs -f ms-kanji will produce gibberish.
>
> You need to use tcs on the raw files befo
> this thread is now twice as big as the swap and proc code.
> is it really that much fun to do research this way?
> yes, it has been done. no, my current work has nothing
> to do with this issue.
>
> someone written a line of relevant code during this "discussion"?
would you care to give refere
> The fs does not issue the print command until the descriptor being
> used to update file contents is closed.
ah. the print directory is not any old directory, but a special fs.
> And yes, on Plan 9, lp is used. On macosx, lpr.
unfortunate.
- erik
> The octopus is using just an empty directory as the printer spooler.
> (you may have as many as you want). When you start the fs you tell it the
> underlying printing command and options. Thus, a simple cp suffices to print.
how do you keep the printer from starting on a job too soon?
> There a
> I better explain my problem. :)
> I have a CGI for Apache. I wrote it in C, and it simply parses text
> from a html textarea, giving another html in output. I made it as a
> state machine which outputs and outputs according to the input
> characters.
>
> Apache communicates with the CGI process
> That's why many OSes have a "spawn" primitive that combines fork-and-exec.
the problem with spawn is it requires a mechanism to replace that little
block of code between the fork and exec. that code is hardly ever the
same so spawn keeps growing arguments.
- erik
> > if one wishes to be remotely standards-compliant, sending a note on
> > allocation
> > failure is not an option. k&r 2nd ed. p. 252.
>
> i was discussing something about it in practice, and not in a 1970's
> environment,
> where the approach didn't really work well even then. the `recover
On Tue Sep 4 09:39:37 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yep, I've seen code with totally erroneous use of realloc work perfectly on
> Linux for example, due to it's behavior. Then I built it on FreeBSD and it
> failed appropriately :-).
what does this have to do with memory overcommitment?
> that's a slightly different aspect. the note should not be "page fault" but
> "out of memory" (or some such thing). that's much better than a nil return.
> most errors on shared resoruces are better expressed as exceptions (notes),
> because that's what they are: they are a failure of the under
>> to any process. suppose i start a program that allocates 8k but between
>> the malloc and the memset, another program uses the last available
>> page in memory, then my original program faults.
>
> yes, and you'll always have to deal with that in some form or another.
> i've started a program,
On Mon Sep 3 16:48:59 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If your machines are regularly running out of VM, something is wrong
> in your environment. I would argue that we'd be better off fixing
> upas/fs to be less greedy with memory than contorting the system to
> try to avoid overcommitting m
> One option for Erik: try changing the segment allocator so that it
> faults in all segment pages on creation. Would this do what you want?
> I will try this if I get time later today. Assuming it is as simple as
> my simple-minded description makes it sound.
grudgingly, i admit it would -- assum
> One might allocate at least 3.2GB of swap for a 4GB machine, but many
> of our machines run with no swap, and we're probably not alone. And
> 200 processes are not a lot. Would you really have over 32GB of swap
> allocated for a 4GB machine with 2,000 processes?
>
> Programs can use a surprisi
>> The current swap just frustrates people who expect it to work, and
>> then have their systems freeze randomly. Maybe by disabling/remove
>> swap support, then if someone really needs swap he will fix it first
>> and then we can add it back.
>
> i'm not sure all the random freezes are caused by
>> there are? where are these available?
>
> ftp://ftp.apnic.net/pub/stats/arin/delegated-arin-latest
arin only covers part of the world. i don't see any
entries for bazil in this file. all the rirs however are
required to implement whois.
- erik
> Also, it's broken, broken, broken on Plan 9
but could you describe what antisocial behavior it exhibits and how one
could reproduce this behavior? i have never used to-disk paging on plan 9,
so i don't know.
> and nobody wants to fix it.
this has been a good discussion so far. let's not go o
> Most applications probably use much less than 1 MB, but a lot depends
> on who wrote the program. Our threaded programs typically have a 4K
> or 8K (K, not M) fixed-size stack per thread and that works fine,
> although you have to remember not to declare big arrays/structs as
> local variables.
>> would have to commit just for stacks. With 2,000 processes, that
>> would rise to 32GB just for stacks.
>
> With 4GB RAM, wouldn't you allocate at least that much swap
> no matter what?
that's pretty expensive if you're booting from flash and not using a remote
fileserver. 8GB flash is expen
> If system calls were the only way to change memory allocation, one
> could probably keep a strict accounting of pages allocated and fail
> system calls that require more VM than is available. But neither Plan
> 9 nor Unix works that way. The big exception is stack growth. The
> kernel automati
> 1) why would whois info matter to determine where a client is? There
> are databases of ip country locations which would make much more
> sense, depending on notoriously unreliable whois servers is silly both
> from a security point of view and from a reliability point of view.
there are? where
> but most people can live with the overcommit, as witness the fact that
> most of us do and never know it.
>
> If you can't live with overcommit, maybe you need a wrapper that:
> sets up to catch the note (I am assuming here that you get one; do you?)
> malloc
> zero memory you malloc'ed (which w
> but most people can live with the overcommit, as witness the fact that
> most of us do and never know it.
>
> If you can't live with overcommit, maybe you need a wrapper that:
> sets up to catch the note (I am assuming here that you get one; do you?)
> malloc
> zero memory you malloc'ed (which w
> the problem is not really as easy as it might seem at first.
> malloc just moves the brk, but the backing pages don't get
> allocated until the pages are accessed (during memset).
>
i'm just suprised that plan 9 overcommits. this makes
this code nonsensical from user space
if((p = mal
> We're partly there in spirit; what fraction of the 4e kernel's system
> calls are there for backwards compatibility? ;)
i don't know if that's a rhetorical question or not. it's not hard to answer.
/sys/src/libc/9syscall/sys.h lists 51 system calls. ten have underscores.
OSEEK is also obsole
> I put a new Intel PRO/1000 in my Plan 9 server. The card is detected
> by 9load (?) as ether#0 igbe and then as #l1: i82543. There is another
> network interface on board which ist detected as elnk3. I put
> ether0=igbe, ether1=elnk3 in my plan9.ini.
>
> My problem is, that /net/ether0 points a
> If you're running ken's fileserver, I trust that you're compiling your
> own kernels.
>
> All you have to add to cpu kernels from sources to reinstate IL are
> the current /sys/src/9/ip/il.c and add "il" to the kernel
> configuration files (or keep your current ones). replica/pull will
> remove
by the way, i am actively working on ken's fs. i have added
an aoe initiator (big suprise), an intel ahci driver and a few
other things. if you're interested, drop me a note.
- erik
i wrote a paper on how i ported history from ken's fs to ken's fs.
i think the technique would work for porting history from any fs
to any fs. /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/history.ms
however, we have a working kenfs. kenfs has been stable for a
very long time. venti+fossil has been problematic f
On Thu Aug 30 18:27:44 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In the interest of minimising maintenance, we're going to stop
> maintaining Ken's fs and IL entirely. We thank them (and Ken) for
> many years of faithful service. We're now running fossil with nventi
> on our main file servers. cwfs(4
i was trying to tickle a kernel panic, but instead
i think i found a bug. this program was run on
a machine with 1800 MB user space available.
(3552/464510 user)
#include
#include
enum{
Big = 1024*1024*1790,
};
void
> mkfs: proto.cp:14: can't stat file /sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/mouse:
> '/sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/mouse' does not exist
> mkfs: proto.cp:15: can't stat file /sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/pcmcia:
> '/sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/pcmcia' does not exist
> mkfs: proto.cp:17: can't stat file /sys/lib/dist/pc/multi/vga:
>
you finally found that chris *does* drive.
but can't spell. it's "yesosfr".
- erik
> I came across Plan9 some time ago and have now decided to give it a go.
> However, the CD image seems to be broken or corrupted. I have tried
> downloading it on different machines but the iso cannot be read although it
> has been successfully extracted from the bz2 file.
>
> Also, the following
> I came across Plan9 some time ago and have now decided to give it a go.
> However, the CD image seems to be broken or corrupted. I have tried
> downloading it on different machines but the iso cannot be read although it
> has been successfully extracted from the bz2 file.
>
> Also, the following
> i agree tab handling is imperfect and often frustrating (especially
> when working with people who code in variable-width fonts, which,
> personally, still seems a bit odd to me) [...]
why? no one reads books in fixed-pitch type.
just because teletypes did it, isn't a compelling
reason to conti
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering an alternative to the current tab behaviour in text frames.
> I'm tired of adding/removing tabs to keep adt declarations aligned, and I
> think
> the machine should do it, not me. Thus, for a experimental implementation
> for text frames I'm playing with now, I plan
> to
> Subect: individual window dump
>
> how do i get the screendump of a window, not the whole screen?
>
> i thought "cat /dev/wsys/4/window" had done the job but no success
> on recent installattion seeing the error:
> cat: error reading /dev/wsys/4/window: readimage from window
> unimplemen
> But the EIP has to access the instructions. After the mov, you're
> still at low memory. Paging is turned on at this time. The JMP is
> running at 0x1something. So you turn paging on and do a jump, but
> paging is on when you do the jmp and fetch from low memory. To make
> the ifetch work yo
where is that time? what i see in l.s
MOVL$_startpg(SB), AX /* this is a virtual address */
MOVLDX, CR0 /* turn on paging */
JMP*AX /* jump to the virtual nirvana
*/
perhaps i am missing it, b
perhaps this is completely obvious, but why are the first
4 mb double-mapped in l.s at virtual address 0 and KZERO?
also, am i mixed up or should the comment about the double
mapping be on the following line?
- erik
/*
* Now ready to use the new map. Make sure the processor options are what is
> delete the last two lines of /sys/src/cmd/page/page.h
> and it will work just fine, as long as you are not using vnc
> nor an old drawterm. it might be a little slow on local
> kernels too. if anyone fixes the vnc / kernel issues
> then we can delete those lines for good.
>
> russ
that's pro
> we talked about this before...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.plan9/browse_thread/thread/c67c67140a8d54d0/2c894e318848b968
>
> in my post is what I did to circunvent this in abaco.
>
> hth
the problem is that you fix doesn't always work, at least for
me. i still see blue pngs.
-
> In case this is of use to somebody:
>
> I've converted plan9bunnywhite.jpg to a PNG with transparent background.
> Find it at http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/rob/bunny.html .
>
> The goal was to add drawterm to the OS X dock with a nice icon, which
> turned out to be more difficult than it should be.
> In OO you are _always_ composing stuff from at least two sets of data
> and functions: the data and functions of parent, and the data and
> functions of the new child you are creating. In Plan 9, the standard /
> net might represent the parent, and /my/net that you bind on top of it
> represents
> Hm, /rc/bin/service/tcp25 runs as "none" and where as it can read the
> certificate *that's easy), but I could have sworn it could not access the
> "eve" factotum (I use "proxima" as a replacement for "bootes", I have a
> feeling there are namespace issues that Bell Labs ought to take into
>
> Finally, to argue that files are not objects seems silly. They ARE
> objects. They have properties. They have well defined interfaces for
> manipulating those properties. A more reasonable argument may be that
> they are not object oriented since they lack certain prerequisites such
> as inhe
since it was mentioned, (and not that anyone cares),
found an interpretation of netpipes i wrote for testing
the myricom driver. /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/hose.c
it turns out that aux/listen1 is enough to replace faucet.
sink% aux/listen1 -v 'tcp!*!' /bin/rc -c '/bin/cat > plan9.iso
> * (IIRC) Beagle daemon uses extended attributes to track files that
> were scanned and are not modified - they contain part of it's detected
> metadata, hash and DB pointer
so, to summarize. beagle is using attributes to extend the file object.
i think the main benefit files (and a filesystem)
> On 8/20/07, Francisco J Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do you prefer embedding the "face" in each mail as metadata instead of
> > keeping a faces db?
>
> Why would he? He argued for keeping icons in sync with files -- that's
> because files change and move. Once you link an address w
> The fathers of Unix saw many things, but who's to say they saw all the
> metadata we will ever need?
who's to say they didn't. (i hope we're talking about plan 9 here, not
unix. in plan 9 many cumbersome traditions were broken. if
they had wanted attributes, they would have added them.)
i do
> But what about making directories into files? We should get rid of one
> or the other, is my point. Give all filesystem objects children (which
> are other filesystem objects) and then as many 'channels' as they
> like, for app and OS specific things (ACL channel, owner channel, byte
> channel, d
hey, how do you grep for stuff in extended attributes?
- erik
> On 8/17/07, Douglas A. Gwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What do you mean by "extended attributes"?
>> I haven't noticed them on the Unix systems I use.
>>
> maybe I'm missing the question, but on my linux:
>
> man -k extended | g
> You can't argue against the principle, we take files as directories all
> the time and one level or another.
> So, for me, it's botched implementation. Just wait for extended
> attribute directories to be added on with something like
> file.txt:meta.zip (but not zip files, something new [that'
> Hi, erik,
>
> I got the AoE target mounted using sdata successfuly.
> I recompiled vblade from sources and that was it.
great. thanks for the bug report.
> with the old vblade, it reported that 'data' file is zero lengthed.
>
> term% ls -l /dev/aoe/0.0
> --rw-r--r-- a 0 glenda glenda 0
that's a quality rant.
- erik
i did, and it was applied about may 20, 2006.
/n/sources/patch/applied/libframe-alpha
i don't know why it got lost.
- erik
On Wed Aug 15 12:14:22 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Why not submit a patch?
>
> uriel
>
> On 8/13/07, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
> Hello,
>
> I have a question regarding cpurc. I managed to set up a combined cpu/auth
> server by loosely following the wiki instructions.
>
> If I understand correctly, the lines
>
> if(! test -e /rc/bin/service.auth/il566){
> mv /rc/bin/service.auth/authsrv.il566 /rc/bin/service.auth/i
> i started vblade with:
> cpu% dd -if /dev/zero -of 80.74 -bs 1024 -count 102400
> 102400+0 records in
> 102400+0 records out
> cpu% vblade -ia 80.74 80.74
> lblade 80.74 204672 sectors
looks good.
> mounted the target with:
> term% bind -b '#ae' /dev
i think you mean '#
the hack i posted yesterday only attacks a symptom. the real problem is
queries like
dennis 71410630:00 0:00 11148K Rendez dns [reading
outside reply from 10.128.1.22 for 190.73-94-123.dyn.dsl.cantv.net ip]
which for us is bogus, but could be valid in some cases, causes a
> Hi everyone.
> I download the bz2 file of plan9 and unzip it. i install with this
> iso file, when the
> [copydist] prompt available, i press enter, i got a error:
> replica/applylog bad database entry ''
>
> I tried this step more time and got same error.
> Anybody can give some advise?
>
> > does anyone have an example of a case where compression and uniquing are
> > required?
>
> I'm not sure about compression, but uniquing must be a very neat feature
> when you want to build a P2P overlaid venti.
what do you mean by p2p overlaid venti?
- erik
> something like that.
>
> see http://www.ietf.org/ids.by.wg/dnsop.html
>
> in particular
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsop-default-local-zones-02.txt
>
> -art
are you saying you've see the same email trick with addresses
other than 10/8 or 192.168/16?
- erik
on the dns front, i've found that some spam senders are
arranging things so that the guys doing reverse-lookup
validataion will get 192.168 or 10. addresses. for some reason
arin doesn't return an address for a query on 10.in-addr.arpa
or 168.192.in-addr.arpa, so dns will loop from the top and nev
> I think Mechiel Lukkien GSoC project might be helpful with such
> issues, see
> http://gsoc.cat-v.org/people/mjl/blog//2007-08-06-1_Rabin_fingerprints
>
; hget http://gsoc.cat-v.org/people/mjl/blog//2007-08-06-1_Rabin_fingerprints
hget: Not found on server
- erik
> > does anyone have an example of a case where compression and uniquing are
> > required?
>
> the compression is nice to have of course but the uniqing is very
> neat. I have always though of it as plan9's answer to CSV et al.
>
> When you do a release of a software package you copy the files t
> how about mounting venti-backed fossil files from a linux as an AoE drives?
> vblade on sources exports the plan 9 file and the aoe driver for linux
> does the mounting.
>
> Venti would be compressing and condensing duplicated blocks to a single block.
> I'm not sure if same files are boundaried
On Mon Aug 13 14:31:57 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We've been having good luck with the dns currently on sources. I
> don't think I have seen the srvfail problem. The query waits on
> reverse lookups seem to have been a symptom of local ndb
> misconfiguration, though it would be better i
> We've been having good luck with the dns currently on sources. I
> don't think I have seen the srvfail problem. The query waits on
> reverse lookups seem to have been a symptom of local ndb
> misconfiguration, though it would be better if dns coped more sensibly
> with that. As I recall, the n
> ... but if i used ssh, i wouldn't get easy access to /mnt/term,
> with all of the benefits that that implies. likewise, i wouldn't be
> able to create new shell
> or rio windows spawned from within the same cpu session (i.e. sharing
> the same environment,
> including the name space).
>
> when i
> > you need an updated rio/libframe/devdraw. the problem is that libframe
> > this was fixed may 15, 2006, i believe. i use a subpixel antialiased font.
> > (/n/sources/contrib/quanstro/antialias.tar
> > /lib/font/bit/cyberbit/mod14.font)
> >
> I have the newest setup i guess, did a pull today
if you're setting up a new venti+fossil+aoe fs, i would recommend using
sdaoe.
(i don't recommend fidding with something that's already working, though.)
- erik
> We use venti-fossil on Coraid´s SR aoe drives just fine.
> The frontend is a separate Plan 9 machine that uses fs(3) to partition the
> but if you don't start rio, the drawterm console only provides limited
> functionality,
> (unless i tried a broken version) - no mouse selection, cut, paste, hold-mode,
> scrollback, etc.
you didn't say you wanted those. ;-) what about ssh? ssh isn't too hard
to setup. you will need netkey fr
need to sed the brain this morning
On Mon Aug 13 07:57:00 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> assuming things are broken without external help
>
s/external/internal/
- erik
On Sun Aug 12 23:35:45 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> how about mounting venti-backed fossil files from a linux as an AoE drives?
> vblade on sources exports the plan 9 file and the aoe driver for linux
> does the mounting.
>
> Venti would be compressing and condensing duplicated blocks to a
assuming things are broken without external help
i've been having trouble with dns infinitely extending
the life of queries when a "srvfail" is returned by an authoratitive
server. eventually one query to a broken ns will hold up all the threads
available
on the server. this happends a lot
> using inferno as a drawterm means that you can have a
> non-graphical shell window (local mouse interaction and editing, remote
> commands) which is useful when connecting through higher
> latency connections. i wouldn't be without it.
you don't have to start rio on drawterm. that's controlled
> I can confirm that the problem happens with a plan9 terminal and the
> vera.ttf font running as a guest OS in VMware workstation 5.5, I'd
> thought it was an oddity of my setup.
>
> > However this doesn't happen in acme window, it happens only to the
> > terminal window.
>
> > Any hints how to
On Fri Aug 10 20:45:06 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> the only issue is calling in and out, the two thunks. you write
> a small bit of assembly language for these, again and again
> until you get it right. there are no other compiler clashes.
>
> brucee
sorry. i'm not following at all.
how do you get the native c compiler to play along with some of ken's ideas?
- erik
On Fri Aug 10 18:44:19 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have an odd machine which doesn't work right in the brave new APIC
> world (for example, VESA mode can draw windows and menus but not paint
> the cursor...?).
you wouldn't happen to have usb legacy support enabled in bios, would you?
(
first, many thanks to geoff for spending quite a bit of time
making sure everything was right for inclusion in the sources tree.
>
> There is at least one important fix in our version of the
> Coraid code, so if you're running old Coraid code, you should
> update.
fortunately, the bug in questio
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