Re: [abcusers] Tuplets

2000-10-27 Thread Wendy Galovich
At 05:18 PM 10/27/2000 -0700, you wrote: > A triplet in abc2mtex is written (3abc; in abc2ps, it's >((3abc)---the slur has to be put in explicitly. (Technically, I don't >think it's a slur--it's just a grouping symbol to catch the eye, and it's >often denoted with an angular slur, instead o

Re: [abcusers] Good quote

2000-10-27 Thread Laura Conrad
> "jc" == jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jc> Laura Conrad wrote: jc> | In free software, the fact that something is possible doesn't jc> | guarantee that it will happen; it's the fact that it's possible and a jc> | lot of the people who could do it want it. jc> Hey, that'

[abcusers] Tuplets

2000-10-27 Thread John Walsh
A triplet in abc2mtex is written (3abc; in abc2ps, it's ((3abc)---the slur has to be put in explicitly. (Technically, I don't think it's a slur--it's just a grouping symbol to catch the eye, and it's often denoted with an angular slur, instead of the usual curvy one. Question: do

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Christophe" == Christophe Declercq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christophe> Changing symbols size is very easy with abc2ps. >> >> 6. Page design >> When it comes to adjusting the page design - the font, size and >> positioning of titles etc., the space between the sta

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Christophe Declercq
> De : Frank Nordberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : Re: [abcusers] free Finale > Date : vendredi 27 octobre 2000 22:24 > [...] > 5. Readability. >I've already mentioned some factors that affect readability, such as > the incorrect propotion between note head size and l

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Frank Nordberg
Bob Archer wrote: > > Things like slurs are incredibly difficult to get right in all situations > and I was wondering if a program like Finale would do a better job with > them than some of the abc software. With Finale NotePad you can reshape, resize and reposition individual slurs to your he

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Frank" == Frank Nordberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Frank> My main arguments for an ABC-to-ETF converter is: Frank> c) whether we like it or not, ETF seems at the moment to be the only Frank> open and actually functioning music notation format on a complexity Frank> level

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Frank" == Frank Nordberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Frank> well, the answer to that is both yes and no. It's obviously wrong to Frank> claim that all commercial software manufacturers think of Frank> is profit. The point isn't that commercial software is evil; it's that there

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Frank Nordberg
Bob Archer wrote: > > At 09:05 PM 26-10-00 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote: > > >Philip Rowe wrote: > > >> Is the printed output better than anything the ABC community can > >> offer? > > > >Yes. > > That sounds like a challenge to me. In what way is the current output of > abc programs lacking?

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Frank Nordberg
Laura Conrad wrote: > > > "Frank" == Frank Nordberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Frank> I don't know what you mean with "stable", Laura. Finale has > Frank> been around for more than ten years now and has remained > Frank> more or less the industial standard for most of that

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Bob Archer
At 01:38 PM 27-10-00 -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: >> "Bob" == Bob Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Bob> At 09:05 PM 26-10-00 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote: >>> Philip Rowe wrote: > >>>> Is the printed output better than anything the ABC community can >>>> offer? >>> >

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Bob" == Bob Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bob> At 09:05 PM 26-10-00 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote: >> Philip Rowe wrote: >>> Is the printed output better than anything the ABC community can >>> offer? >> >> Yes. Bob> That sounds like a challenge to me. In

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Bob Archer
At 09:05 PM 26-10-00 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote: >Philip Rowe wrote: >> Is the printed output better than anything the ABC community can >> offer? > >Yes. That sounds like a challenge to me. In what way is the current output of abc programs lacking? Bob To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread jc
John Atchley wrote: [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > But plain ascii text from 30 years > ago is readable just about anywhere, and will be readable a century > from now. Provided it's on an accessible physical medium. 30 years ago

Re: [abcusers] Egregious example of line wrapping

2000-10-27 Thread Wil Macaulay
Actually, abc4mac _is_ AppleScriptable, although it doesn't support the full BarFly superset of abc. There are a couple of 'droplets' in the abc4mac distribution for building pdfs by invoking abc4mac and then GhostView, for example. wil Phil Taylor wrote: > Sure, the idea of BarFly popping up

[abcusers] Good quote

2000-10-27 Thread jc
Laura Conrad wrote: | In free software, the fact that something is possible doesn't | guarantee that it will happen; it's the fact that it's possible and a | lot of the people who could do it want it. Hey, that's a nice, succinct statement. Mind if we quote you? To subscribe/unsubscri

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread jc
Frank Nordberg wrote: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | > Formatting isn't important, and if we lose it, we don't lose much. | > The important thing is the information content. | | Yes, but in music notation it's usually impossible to draw a clear line | between information content a

Re: [abcusers] Egregious example of line wrapping

2000-10-27 Thread Phil Taylor
Sure, the idea of BarFly popping up unexpectedly and opening windows in front of an unsuspecting user is daft. But, there's no reason not to do this while running in the background. You don't normally use the program in the background except to play through a whole file of tunes while you use th

Re: [abcusers] ABC Newbie questions

2000-10-27 Thread Markus Lutz
Dear Jorge, I am using abcm2ps 1.6.1 and abctab2ps 1.0.0. abcm2ps now has the ability to print up to 3 voices per line and it works very well on my system (Atari TOS, I had to compile it on my own, but no changes had to be made). If there are bugs, Jef Moine is very fast on replying and trying t

Re: [abcusers] ABC Newbie questions

2000-10-27 Thread René Quiniou
Jorge Meletti a écrit : > I'm a Brazilian composer and I've studied ABC a couple of hours, but my thinking is >still based on the conventional music notation. > > Do ABC work, in practical terms, with more complex music, like "Bossa Nova", with a >lot of sincopations, tuplets and ties ? Do ABC

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ABC has a real role as a minimal, bare-bones, just-the-music sort of > notation. Like plain ascii text, it will likely be around and useful > long after all the current proprietary music formats are unreadable. > But conversions to ABC will then b

[abcusers] M: none in jabcm2ps

2000-10-27 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, John Atchley wrote: > I can offer it as an option though. Next time I upload the code > &&FreeMetStyle 4 will cause it to output nothing. It'll be up to the user > to use that option intelligently, though ;-) thanks for your clarifications and for the new code, John. Met

Re: [abcusers] free Finale

2000-10-27 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Gianni Cunich wrote: > The trick is having the drivers, and let Windows save to file the printer > output. You end up with a file called *.prn, that you can rename (*.ps or > *.eps, according to what you selected in the printer properties), and then > easily handle with Gosth