Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> | On Tue 18 Dec 2001 at 01:00PM +, Erik Ronstr=F6m wrote: John> | > Consider "standard" music notation: John> | > My theory is that once upon a time, the repeat sign consisted of two John> | > dots (:), and always

Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread John Chambers
James Allwright writes: | On Tue 18 Dec 2001 at 01:00PM +, Erik Ronstr=F6m wrote: | > Consider "standard" music notation: | > My theory is that once upon a time, the repeat sign consisted of two | > dots (:), and always coincided with a bar line.=20 | | An interesting theory, but I don't buy i

RE: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread Toni Schilling
Why not use |: and :| for onbar-repeats and /: and :/ for inbar-repeats. Surrounded with whitespace a parser could handle this as separate tokens and it will not conflict with the A/2 syntax. Also you can be explicith now if needed: | /: abc abc | abc abc :/ | abc /: abc | abc :/ abc | Ton

Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread Laurie Griffiths
Even if this were true, there is plenty of music about with mid bar repeats which we don't want to break. The problem that I alluded to a while ago that I had with Muse (and for which I know no good solution) is something like this T: Rickett's Hornpipel, severely abridged M:4/4 L:1/8 K:D ABc |:

Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread Laurie Griffiths
Jack asked whether anybody's software supported only one key signature per tune. Well I don't. Muse has a general policy of trying to do something that is usually acceptable and doing it automatically. This means that it will not please people who want to make their printed page look exactly l

Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread James Allwright
On Tue 18 Dec 2001 at 01:00PM +, Erik Ronström wrote: > Consider "standard" music notation: > > My theory is that once upon a time, the repeat sign consisted of two > dots (:), and always coincided with a bar line. An interesting theory, but I don't buy it because your symbol is symmetrica

Re: [abcusers] Initial bar lines

2001-12-18 Thread Erik Ronström
> A more seious problem is the > common practice of omitting initial bar lines even when it's not the > start of a repeat. This is another case where we can't fight it, but > we could put subtle (or unsubtle) social pressure to change. What do you mean exactly by "inital bar line"? The bar li

Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread Erik Ronström
Consider "standard" music notation: My theory is that once upon a time, the repeat sign consisted of two dots (:), and always coincided with a bar line. The bar line was then made thicker or double to point out the ending of the part. Later, the dots have come to be associated with the bar line s