Re: [AG-TECH] Operator-Less AGs

2005-04-23 Thread Brian Corrie
Yes, same here. We use AG on the desktop more and more. Once our users are familiar with it, it works well. There is a learning curve and a certain frustration level that has to be dealt with before it can be used effectively... Brian Jeremy Mann wrote: > John I Quebedeaux Jr said: > > >>S

Re: [AG-TECH] Operator-Less AGs

2005-04-23 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, John I Quebedeaux Jr wrote: > Lately I've had sites that were operator-less (user knew enough or didn't > know enough but was running it anyway) and as a result the users were not in > Jabber or relied on the Venue Client Chat (which will sometimes lag or not > respond occa

Re: [AG-TECH] Operator-Less AGs

2005-04-23 Thread Brian Corrie
I agree with John on this... I am not convinced having an integrated chat is the answer either. To me, a text chat can play two fundamentally different roles, the role of a back-channel communication for the techs, but also the role of an out-of-band communication channel for meeting participan

Re: [AG-TECH] Operator-Less AGs

2005-04-23 Thread Tom Coffin
The integrated chat tool can be useful. It is especially handy if node operators do not use other tools. I had to use it just the other day. But, the primary reason I prefer a separate application and machine for backchannel communications is that it is independent from the multicast networking re

Re: [AG-TECH] Operator-Less AGs

2005-04-23 Thread CHUN-YU CHAN
Hello, I think jabber is great. But I just cannot locate the right jabber room for the meeting. Sincerely, CY John I Quebedeaux Jr wrote: > Lately I've had sites that were operator-less (user knew enough or > didn't know enough but was running it anyway) and as a result the > users were not

Re: [AG-TECH] Operator-Less AGs

2005-04-22 Thread Jeremy Mann
John I Quebedeaux Jr said: > So, I'm getting more and more requests by users that want to run the AG > at their desktop or run it themselves. I'll be curious to know if this > is the case at other sites. This is increasing here as well. The popular thing here is for researchers/teachers to parti

[AG-TECH] Operator-Less AGs

2005-04-22 Thread John I Quebedeaux Jr
Lately I've had sites that were operator-less (user knew enough or didn't know enough but was running it anyway) and as a result the users were not in Jabber or relied on the Venue Client Chat (which will sometimes lag or not respond occasionally or even worse, we're in different venues or some