Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Octavian Rasnita
You are very right. Octavian - Original Message - From: "Alex Midence" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards Well, my thinking is and always will be that Libre Office is better off making itself accessible no matter w

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Alex Midence
Well, my thinking is and always will be that Libre Office is better off making itself accessible no matter what screen reader is used. This way, all of the effort and all of the testing that is required to get this job done right does not run the risk of being wasted on one solution that may or may

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Octavian Rasnita
The same danger from the perspective of the blind computer users also appear in other EU countries where the governments prefer paying for screen readers made in EU, even though none of them are as good as JAWS. The governments don't care that just a few computer users need to use complex appli

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Octavian Rasnita
Unfortunately, it is not important for the blind what it will be. If NVDA will be ever better than JAWS it would be great, but until then... it is not. I hope LibreOffice will be also accessible for a screen reader which mades as many other applications accessible as possible. Octavian - O

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Alex Midence
Hi, Christophe, Yes, I mean those very same agencies. The agencies that assist with employment and with funding for assistive technology. In the matter of fearing that it is a chancy thing to make these people aware of things like NVDA because they might decide not to purchase software on the gr

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi Alex, At 18:53 6/12/2010, Alex Midence wrote: (...) I use Jaws and NVDA as my screen readers in windows and Orca in Linux. It is good to hear that there are screen reader users on this list! (...) I am relieved to see mention of closed source, non-free screen readers in this thread. B

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Alex Midence
Hello, list, I am a recent subscriber and felt I might have something of use to contribute on this topic. I use Jaws and NVDA as my screen readers in windows and Orca in Linux. I will attest to the above-mentioned statements that Jaws works poorly with Open Office and NVDA has less than optimal

[libreoffice-accessibility] Bug 32137: Image title and description disappear after adding caption

2010-12-06 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi, I have filed a bug that I originally discovered in OpenOffice.org (, fix to be included in OOo 3.4): when you add a caption to an image after adding Title and Description ("alt text"), the Title and Description disappear. So you need

Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Laws and standards

2010-12-06 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi Marc, At 20:42 2/12/2010, you wrote: Le 2010-12-02 11:27, Christophe Strobbe a écrit : > (...) > At 07:41 2/12/2010, Marc Paré wrote: >> (...) >> >> This seems like quite an important developer detail to work out right >> from the very start. Are the developers aware of accessibility >> conce