[Acme] Use cases / trust model for device certs

2019-04-17 Thread Richard Barnes
Hey Rifaat, Owen and I were chatting about ACME and device certs this morning, and it seemed like it might be useful to rekindle discussion on the topic here on the ACME list. I'd like to push a little more on the trust model here. Just to establish some terminology: - Device: Uses certificates

Re: [Acme] [SUSPICIOUS] Use cases / trust model for device certs

2019-04-17 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Richard, Just to add, ACME is really an enrollment protocol. For device onboarding, we have those. I hadn’t really thought about ACME as one, but there are definitely some concepts that can and should be leverage. PoP or Proof of ownership is one that requires exploration. Also, this tie

Re: [Acme] Use cases / trust model for device certs

2019-04-17 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Hi Richard, I was not aware of the ANIMA work before the meeting in Prague, so I will definitely look into that in details. One use case that I have in mind is a way to make sure that a specific device can only be used by a specific party. If you rely on RP to request identities for the device, t