Re: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Glenn Corbett
Title: Message Agreed joe, it would take you away from other useful things *grin*   However, I've been re-reading the posts, and it sounds like a damn good idea.  With the current virii swarming around, we are constantly being hounded as to the EXACT patch state of all servers on the network

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Joe
Title: Message Definitely. And I don't want to put out a free tool that people come to depend on that requires constant interaction from me. That doesn't make sense from any standpoint.     joe   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Joe
Title: Message Definitely, that is one of the reasons why I don't want to come up with a method of figuring out the patches, would rather leverage something they have and "parse" it. That way if there is a problem in the hotfixes ascertained, it isn't my problem, it is a problem with an MS to

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Joe
I would visualize pulling the hotfixes (method purposely undetermined at this point :oP ) and then normalizing and sorting it, then posting it. If the string is identical AD should admit it did an update but not really do it and go on its way. Alternatively I could read the attribute from AD and d

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
You'd have to pull the attribute back to the client, perform the sort, then repopulate the string. I guess it depends on the way the attrib update would be one - complete refresh or incremental additon. If it's a complete refresh for every scan then its not a big deal. ---

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Joe
Why do you feel it would slow updates or are you simply thinking the time to sort it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Did anyone use patching software?

2003-09-13 Thread Rod Trent
Microsoft Systems Management Server. It will takes your 2 days down to 6 hours or less. When a serious vulnerability is found and an attack is initiated, 2 days is too long. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Saturday, Sep

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Did anyone use patching software?

2003-09-13 Thread Rick Kingslan
Our workstation team has been using MBSAFU, which has garnered some respect and press on NTBugTraq. Used to be called HFNetFU, but was renamed at the request (kind request, BTW) of Shavlik. It's a nice tool because it's not terribly hard to set up, is very efficient at detecting systems that need

[ActiveDir] OT: Did anyone use patching software?

2003-09-13 Thread David Adner
Just curious, due to the discussion on trying to verify patched systems and such, but did anyone actually use 3rd party or even MS's patching software? Or did you use custom scripts, manually updates, etc? I ask because we had budgeted for patching software but management has decided we're too

RE: [ActiveDir] New RPC DOS

2003-09-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message I believe I mentioned that exact issue elsewhere. There is at least a hint of security built into SOAP - unlike RPC which comes from the "trust everyone" days   Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. S

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message I never said it was a *good* place to look, but its a good start, IMO.   Like many of my issues with developers these days, it comes down to consistency. There needs to be a consistent way to track these things, and the only place that's going to come from is Microsoft.     -

RE: [ActiveDir] New RPC DOS

2003-09-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message For some reason, my InfoSec (who is damn good to begin with) guy likes working with me.. Haven't figured that out yet...   Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. --

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
Between what you told us about the field size (>2k) plus Tony's[1] comment about using comma separated rather than semicolon separated values, I think you've got a good first hack at it. Would it make sense to store the AD attrib's content in a pre-sorted order? Benefits retrieval but slows update

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Rick Kingslan
Title: Message Deji,   Not sure what you mean  I'm not indicating anything about XP - I'm just talking about the 6 - 8 wierd 'maybe it's patched, maybe it's not patched' issues that are cited when running MBSA against Win2k SP3.   XP - yeah, there might be problems.  But I've got 500 Win

RE: [ActiveDir] Any AD GURUS who Patch Systems? - using operating SystemHotFix

2003-09-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message That makes perfect sense. I guess I'm wondering how complex that would be for Joe's idea, though. It would require the AD updater to itself require very regular updates.     -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr