RE: [ActiveDir] Deactivating Schema Attributes

2004-09-10 Thread Eljin
David, Is this W2k or W2k3? Do you use plan to re-use attribute or totally eliminate it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Deactivating Schema At

RE: [ActiveDir] Deactivating Schema Attributes

2004-09-10 Thread Dean Wells
The data persists and can be accessed if the attribute is reactivated. -- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 4:12 P

[ActiveDir] Deactivating Schema Attributes

2004-09-10 Thread David Adner
Anyone know if a schema attribute is deactivated, does the related data associated with it get deleted or just sit dormant? List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.

RE: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Renouf, Phil
There is no difference when logging on with a UPN vs. logging on with the old NT4 style: they both use Kerberos as their authentication method and both use DNS to find a domain controller. Why you are seeing issues when logging on with a UPN is definitely very odd, but when logging on with a UPN yo

RE: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Douglas M. Long
Now I know that it isn't logging into the domain in the same context (as a few people have agreed) either way, because I have odd problems with applications when logging in with the UPN. I just wonder what the actual differences are...although for no other reason than to know, because I definitely

RE: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Lou Vega
Perhaps the confusion lies with the fact that even after the drop down is grayed-out when you user [EMAIL PROTECTED] to login, it still "says" either Workstation or the domain depending on what was selected prior to typing in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] login info. -Original Message- From: [EM

Re: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread ASB
The reason why the "domain" dialog area is greyed out when you initiate a UPN logon is that it is ignored. The domain info is derived from your UPN. ~ > The reason I ask is because a user has been logging on with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and local machine and has

RE: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Renouf, Phil
You can't do that. If you type in user@ the domain dropdown box is grayed out and does not apply. The login process uses the information after the @ sign for where to authenticate you, so as long as you are typing in a valid UPN you will get authenticated to the domain just like you do if you type

RE: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Mulnick, Al
I think you have it.  But let me play this back to be sure I understand correctly.   Example 1, you get the logon dialog box and you enter the following: User Name: Jdoe Password : Mysupersecretpassword in the logon to drop down ('cause this is a member of the domain right?) you specify the

Re: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Paul van Geldrop
In the first example, you're logging in straight into the security context of the domain, authenticating you to the domain. In the second example, you're logging into the workstation's security context, which does not give you domain-wide authentication. And, oh yes, I might be wrong, just t

Re: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Paul Wilkinson
I might be completely off here, but I can log in to the domain with either username or [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it's the same thing. Are you saying that there's a local user on that workstation that is named [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I know, adding @domain.com regardless of what is in the "log

RE: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Douglas M. Long
Lol. This is why I am not a teacher, I cant explain worth a darn.   Example1: User name:   jdoe     Password:       Log on to: DOMAIN     Example2: U

RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos

2004-09-10 Thread Mulnick, Al
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos Thanks Guido. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, GuidoSent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:10 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos Al, realize that the user accounts Guy is talki

RE: [ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Mulnick, Al
Can you say that again with some examples?    Al From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. LongSent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:43 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Logon types OK, this may be a stupid question, but here it goes.   If I log

RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos

2004-09-10 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos Al, realize that the user accounts Guy is talking about are all in one forest - so the issue is not related to UPNs being unique accross more than one forest. They're just logging in from a machine in a different forest.   I've already discussed offlin

RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos

2004-09-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos I thought this was a great article on the topic:   http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/directory/activedirectory/fedffin2.mspx From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, AlSent: Fri

[ActiveDir] Logon types

2004-09-10 Thread Douglas M. Long
OK, this may be a stupid question, but here it goes.   If I login to a client machine with username and domain how does that differ from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and local machine. My suspicion is that when logging in locally with the UPN (is that the correct term) that a ticket is only granted

RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos

2004-09-10 Thread Mulnick, Al
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Fun with Kerberos No, that sounds about right.    Across two forests?  Be tough for any administrative program to enforce uniqueness unless it was authoritative for both forests.   That said, that's something you want your admin processes to compensate for and ensure t