RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-07-01 Thread joseph.e.kaplan
.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:47 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management   JoeK... quite honestly, it almost sounds like you could sell this beast. I am sure there are things very specific

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-07-01 Thread joe
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:21 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management I could not agree more with Joe on this point too.  We have a bunch of business rules that work really well for us, but they definitely aren’t for everyone

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-30 Thread joseph.e.kaplan
eDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management   I agree with JoeK, keep this info all together. I have visualized a system that synced back and forth to AD/AM though. But that was to set it up so that the ACL manipulations were in AD/AM and then any changes in AD/AM were doubleche

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-30 Thread joseph.e.kaplan
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management   I think you need to solve your business issues before your technical issues. The technology is certainly readily available to handle this type of work if you want to build it. However, you need to be able to feed rules into the system to follow or else the

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-30 Thread joe
PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:41 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management No, it seemed to make more sense to put it in AD and keep it all in the same place.  Using DN syntax attributes to represent the users and groups allows us to take advantage of

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-30 Thread joe
I think you need to solve your business issues before your technical issues. The technology is certainly readily available to handle this type of work if you want to build it. However, you need to be able to feed rules into the system to follow or else the systems no matter how complex will b

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-29 Thread joseph.e.kaplan
.   Joe   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management   Did you consider using SQL to store all the metadata for the groups? That’s what I’m

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-29 Thread Ken Cornetet
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:15 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management I wish we had a system to do that here. I won’t create any group without the managed by attribute being populated. This way I can then pas

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-29 Thread Ken Cornetet
We have a centralized security department, and we used to do group management this way. As you found, it gets to be a chore, and the security people really don't know what the groups are for anyway.   What we ended up doing was creating an OU structure that mimics our business unit divisions

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-28 Thread Brian Desmond
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:43 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management   We do the vast majority of our group management via a custom web interface.  The system is self-service and

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-28 Thread joseph.e.kaplan
We do the vast majority of our group management via a custom web interface.  The system is self-service and requires no approval process for creating a group.  We do enforce some semantics and business rules though.  For example, we enforce specific naming conventions, require a sponsor to

RE: [ActiveDir] Group Management

2005-06-28 Thread Brian Desmond
I wish we had a system to do that here. I won’t create any group without the managed by attribute being populated. This way I can then pass off the membership management to whomever. I haven’t really identified yet the magnitude of the problem here, but, we’re going to figure out a way to g